ISO: For Phil ::: FT: Symmetry

Discussion in 'Limited' started by Kramerbarthomer, Jan 26, 2022.

  1. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Champion (849) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    First time on BA in a long ass time.

    1:1

    Ships to Denver
     
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  2. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Initiate (116) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    FYI, based on current trades, you’re about halfway there
     
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  3. TheNinthLetter

    TheNinthLetter Initiate (178) Apr 16, 2017 New York
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    Also fyi they are releasing for phil tomorrow so maybe see if you can find a proxy
     
  4. Appearanceswc

    Appearanceswc Aspirant (270) Mar 9, 2015 Virginia
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    Halfway? Early reviews on For Phil is that its sorta hit or miss with some. Heard there's a crap ton of cinnamon in it and it's "only" a 4.37 on Untappd. Symmetry has 10X more reviews and sits at a 4.66 on Untappd.

    The asking price is def higher for some reason for the For Phil but I don't think it's based on the taste or rarity. I'm not a local, but weren't bottles of Symmetry harder to come by than For Phil?

    I could see OP needing to add a plus potentially but nothing too over the top.
     
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  5. Figueroada

    Figueroada Initiate (88) Apr 21, 2016 Connecticut
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    I think the difference in bottle size also plays a factor
     
  6. MattOC

    MattOC Defender (661) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Aren’t they both 750s?
     
  7. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,032) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    they’re both 750 mL. seems like a fair trade to me. For Phil was more expensive than Symmetry but Symmetry seems even more limited.
     
  8. MattOC

    MattOC Defender (661) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, for sure, just didn’t understand that comment that I replied to. They must be confusing beers/bottles.
     
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  9. fo5s

    fo5s Initiate (185) Dec 2, 2005 Colorado
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    For Phil valuations are high because it has only been released to club members so far. Expect it to fall after tomorrow's public release.
     
  10. Appearanceswc

    Appearanceswc Aspirant (270) Mar 9, 2015 Virginia
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    I was thinking the same thing. I'm wondering if this will be similar to BAA since it has the influence of Perennial.
     
  11. RyanMcFly1985

    RyanMcFly1985 Disciple (343) Oct 20, 2007 Ohio
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    I’ve also been surprised at how many STL guys who typically try to rake people over the coals are looking to unload this one quickly. From what I’ve heard from folks that have had both this and Symmetry, Symmetry is the superior beer. Obviously just opinions.
     
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  12. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Initiate (116) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    Was just stating what the going values of each bottle was at that precise moment. I do apologize for not following up the post with the public release info (thanks @TheNinthLetter !). But at this particular moment, the Denver guys flooded the market with Symmetry so it’s value has fallen steadily, while For Phil (at the moment for less than 24 hr lol) remains a private member release. Trying to predict the beer market is like trying to predict crypto.
     
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  13. Appearanceswc

    Appearanceswc Aspirant (270) Mar 9, 2015 Virginia
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    I hear ya on that...Wishing I had dumped my crypto about two months ago :slight_frown:

    Was Symmetry released in Denver too?
     
  14. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,032) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    there was a keg and some bottles sent to Denver and Crooked Stave sold some to-go. not sure how many. assuming 1pp.
     
  15. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Initiate (116) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    Oiy, sorry dude! Market in general has been brutal. As for Symmetry, the second half was released at Crooked Stave, 2pp in person sale and on draft from what I’m seeing, although maybe one of the Denver guys can confirm. For reference, I traded a BBT21 for a Symmetry because I really like cinnamon & missed out on the SP release (FOMO effect). Honestly, couldn’t be happier
     
  16. BourbonForBeer

    BourbonForBeer Aspirant (240) May 11, 2020 Illinois
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    Crypto is on sale, possibly a good time to buy :sunglasses:
     
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  17. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,032) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    but is it packaged with a bunch of sours?
     
  18. KevSal

    KevSal Meyvn (1,164) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    how long have you been trading?? while you make total sense, unfortunately that's not always how it works :weary:

    right now i think For phil has a higher trade price due to the fact that only LC members have it. maybe after tomorrows release that will significantly change. plus that for phil label is sexier :rofl:
     
  19. KevSal

    KevSal Meyvn (1,164) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    2pp actually, and if it was half the batch it was probably around 450ish bottles. and from the looks of their trades on their pages, a lot of people got more than 2

    edit: heres the post. maybe less than 450 as they mention a couple dozen at each location

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CZADGEcLHY8/
     
  20. BourbonForBeer

    BourbonForBeer Aspirant (240) May 11, 2020 Illinois
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    If it's Tesla, yes. Well, actually, it's Tequila if it's Tesla stock.
     
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  21. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Initiate (116) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    Bottle is super cool, the tequila inside is garbage :rofl:
     
  22. fo5s

    fo5s Initiate (185) Dec 2, 2005 Colorado
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    2pp at Crooked Stave and haven't heard of folks getting more than that. Granted it's always possible with partners or grandma.

    I heard roughly 160 bottles to CO and that seems to jibe with a rough line count. Not many bottles seemed to move from the initial release because it was 1pp. While reportedly smaller than the SP allocation, CO probably had more tradable bottles so the market supply more than doubled.

    The market is tough to predict but this one feels like a sure thing: same brewer, similar style and adjuncts, worse ratings, and higher bottle count --> I'll be surprised if the relative values don't flip by Saturday (or post pickup).
     
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  23. BourbonForBeer

    BourbonForBeer Aspirant (240) May 11, 2020 Illinois
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    I agree (minus trying it, I haven't). I was going to buy that for my Tech buddy to have to look at and found it it's about 750 right now hahaha, so I passed of course.
     
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  24. KevSal

    KevSal Meyvn (1,164) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    the reason i speculated people got more than 2 is ive seen a couple post looking for bourbon offering 3 bottles :thinking_face:
     
  25. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Initiate (116) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    Most definitely the “Hey Grandma, let’s spend some ‘quality’ time together today,” guys :rofl:
     
  26. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Champion (849) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    Closed 1:1. Cheers all
     
  27. Appearanceswc

    Appearanceswc Aspirant (270) Mar 9, 2015 Virginia
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    I feel like i got an assist on that somehow, lol