ISO:FT post only

Keep it open and just come down hard on trolls.

 

Yep. I agree with this. Moderation will allow for more features, as well as keep the crap off the forums.

 

Would it be possible to make it so that any time a person types, "bm sent" it just doesn't post or says something else instead? You know, like have a replace feature for that phrase?

 

I vote for keeping it open with good moderation and heavy hammers on obvious assholes... And I believe the "assholes" should only be the "assholes who are trolls or assholes with an obvious motive".

"No bumping" with additional posts either from the OP or other BA's. This will give nobody a reason to ever say, "bumping this to the top". But it will allow folks to say, "Hey, I traded with Jon.Q.Trader a couple of times now and while he doesn't have a lot of trades or a deep cellar, he is a rockstar and others should give him a try". And it will give locals chances to vouch for their friends, "Jon.Q.Trader is a good friend, I know where he lives and works and see him regularly. He will make good on his trades".

I guess what I am saying is, if you don't have something to say that is POSITIVE then don't say it. If a newer trader issues an obviously ridiculous trade offer, then handle it by BeerMail (or better yet don't say anything). No harm is done in the open forum and the trade may still get done. But if it doesn't, then maybe that person may be a little more savvy next time.

I have more ideas..... but the above are my main players.

 

Agreed here as well. Moderation is the answer, not limiting the forum(s) itself.

 

I prefer it post only as well. When trying to get a trade done, last thing I need is someone jumping on the thread giving their input on why it is not a great trade. Really liked not having to worry about the $4$ police weighing in on a trade they have no interest in.

RANT: The "FT: Melange 3 ISO: BCBCS x 2" trade currently on there is the perfect example.
I don't know why people feel the need to comment on price/quantity produced. Maybe someone doesn't care what "The Market" says something is worth, and someone out there just really wants one beer and is willing to trade more than the BA community thinks is a good trade. These aren't stocks or baseball cards. They are beers, and they all hopefully are going to be consumed by the parties in the trade.

 

Count me as one who is glad it's back to having replies.

 

I agree - I prefer post-only as well (though I wasn't a fan when first implemented).

I get the argument that this public discussion helps set a value in the market, but these discussions often just devolve into "$4$" or "x bottles produced" posts, and value is more than that. While that's helpful information for many, not all traders are concerned with it - they are just looking for a beer (or beers) they prefer over one or more that they currently have. That'll sometimes lead to trades that others may think are lopsided...but if both parties in a trade are happy, who cares?

If someone posts an ISO:FT that's out of line, they won't get any bites, and theoretically they'll figure out that they need to adjust their trade offer. And if you really want to help someone, BM them privately and let them know why their search may be lopsided.

my 2¢

 

Awesome, awesome avatar. You win.

 

Seems like the only people who prefer the no-reply trade threads are those who are overly self-conscious about trading out in the open.

There's nothing wrong with a little transparency.

 

Nothing wrong with transparency, but being self conscious is not why I'm in favor of the no-reply threads.

Most of the time it seems the replies devolve into threadshitting, bumping, other useless posts, or the "trade police" butting their heads into trades they have no intention of being a part in. Is it ego? To manipulate values for their own benefit later? Who knows...but rarely did the old replies add anything of value to the trade post. If you aren't interested in my trade, move along. I don't need to be policed. We don't need white knights.

If its a good trade, it'll get done. If its way off it most likely won't. Live and learn.

 

Now the OP can just post: "This trade is done" or "I give up," rather than ambiguously locking the thread.

 

I liked the suggestion a couple of my friends have made in the past, but I don't see in this thread yet. Why not allow replies in ISO:FT: forum but the posts remain sequenced by the order of the original creation date of the thread. Eliminates all "bumping" and moderation can be used to manage "policing"

 

Transparency isn't an issue for me, it is just the reality of what the ISO:FT threads turn into. In my opinion, it is inappropriate to make comments on ISO:FT threads that may hurt the OP's chances of getting their desired trade done. I have been on the site for both trading thread policies really find the difference in practice very simple, unfortunately:

Trade Thread - No Reply Allowed
1. If you offer a trade, and someone wants it, they BM you. OP closes thread, trade done.
2. If you offer a trade that no one wants it, you will get no interest, and will have to add more to get the trade done.

Trade Thread - With Replies
1. If you offer a trade, and someone wants it, they BM you. OP closes thread, trade done. Also, you will get a bunch of comments from people saying how it isn't a good trade for one reason or another (creating an argument in the thread,) and a few "BM sent" posts (which I personally don't mind as much as the former.)
2. If you offer a trade and no one wants it, you will get no interest, and will have to add more to get the trade done. Also, people will for some reason be offended by the trade and will criticize the OP for proposing an unfair trade ($4$, bottle count, whatever criteria they decide makes it unfair) eliminating the opportunity for him to just adjust the offer or negotiate with someone who offers something else through BM.

 

If I'm understanding you right, you can do this. Look at the bottom of the threads list:



edit: it doesn't appear to maintain this preference once you set it though (at least not for me).

 

I preferred post only. Replies feel like it's an auction block and that I have no chance of winning.

 

For me, watching the poo flinging was tons of fun.

 

Another vote for replies with moderators.

 

Poo is good, even healthy in moderation. Too much poo means it's time to see the doctor.

 

What's so terribly offensive or obnoxious about a "BM sent" comment. Does that really ruin your experience here? I've never made the comment but I've also never been so put off by it. (confused emoticon)