ISO: Wunderkammer FT: list

Limited Discussion in 'ISO;FT' started by AlexIrigoyen, Feb 11, 2023.

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  1. AlexIrigoyen

    AlexIrigoyen Zealot (635) Jun 3, 2016 Georgia
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    I've heard great things about this little saison producer so I'm looking to score a few bottles

    ISO:
    Centennial Insects
    Panicle of Cymes
    Dreams
    Astral Magic Practice
    Asklepian
    Others if you think they're good

    FT:
    Maman
    Continuance 3
    DB Prison of Cognac

    Ratios would be in my favor but I'm open to discussing specifics via DM

    Thanks
     
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  2. AlexIrigoyen

    AlexIrigoyen Zealot (635) Jun 3, 2016 Georgia
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    Also a bottle of FF Copestone I could add to the FT list
     
  3. Zach_Attack

    Zach_Attack Pundit (954) Aug 4, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Not to cause a ruckus here, but why would ratios be in your favor?
     
  4. jrc1093

    jrc1093 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,466) Mar 18, 2018 Connecticut
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    His FTs are all fairly limited bottles compared to his ISOs. I personally love Wunderkammer, but they just aren't nearly as sought-after as BA bottles from Perennial, SP, etc.
     
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  5. Zach_Attack

    Zach_Attack Pundit (954) Aug 4, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I am familiar with all bottles in question, hence the query. OP's wants are more limited than his gots based on bottle count. Plus, 'sought-after' is all in the eye of the beholder / person ISO.
    Needless to say, best of luck with the trade, OP.
     
  6. AlexIrigoyen

    AlexIrigoyen Zealot (635) Jun 3, 2016 Georgia
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    Maman was $50, Continuance was $60 and both sold out fairly quickly. I don’t know a lot about wunderkammer so I asked the trade value thread what would be fair and got a couple of responses that led me to believe I could get multiple bottles back. Didn’t get a ton of interest though so maybe they’re harder to trade for than I anticipated
     
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  7. Zach_Attack

    Zach_Attack Pundit (954) Aug 4, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I am sure you could find someone willing to trade several for each, especially considering the cost differential.
    I'd consider posting in HF Enthusiasts on FB - you'll probably get more action.
     
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  8. jrc1093

    jrc1093 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,466) Mar 18, 2018 Connecticut
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    I get what you're saying, but being limited doesn't mean a ton when you're comparing them to SP, Perennial, etc that tend to be sought-after consistently on a national scale.
     
  9. jrc1093

    jrc1093 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,466) Mar 18, 2018 Connecticut
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    Could easily see you getting 3 of your ISOs for 1 of your FTs. The issue with Wunderkammer isn't that people hold them so tightly, but that they're release radius is fairly small. I stumble on their bottles in shops around VT for $10-15 per, for reference.

    You'll definitely have much better luck on FB in the HF groups with this.
     
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  10. Zach_Attack

    Zach_Attack Pundit (954) Aug 4, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Except when you're looking for something with more of a regional vibe, it's beneficial to play to that market instead of just assuming your 'national scale' beers will win your trade.
    A whole separate element here is trading dark beers for saisons.
     
  11. jrc1093

    jrc1093 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,466) Mar 18, 2018 Connecticut
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    Sure, I can get that, but I've found Wunderkammer isn't even a huge name in its own region (New England). For example, when listed FT/FS, I've been able to snag bottles in the ~$30 range. Just not much demand even in regional groups.

    A more comparable example, I'd think, would be a place like Freak Folk, which has a similar regional footprint to Wunderkammer, but gets much more attention both regionally and nationally. I know plenty who'd swap a top-tier Freak Folk for bottles like Maman, Continuance, etc.
     
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  12. Zach_Attack

    Zach_Attack Pundit (954) Aug 4, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Perhaps it's just the old money in me that continues to stand by these perspectives, but I understand what you're saying.
     
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  13. jrc1093

    jrc1093 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,466) Mar 18, 2018 Connecticut
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    Believe me, I get entire entirely where you're coming from. Seeing the traffic on FB, it becomes apparent the vast majority of trades are done with secondary values in mind. Whether I like it or not, it's become the easiest benchmark from which trading on a wide scale can be approached.
     
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