Jailbreak Brewing (MD) outrageous pricing.

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  1. wd09601

    wd09601 Crusader (416) Jul 29, 2012 Maryland

    I had heard from my friend that beer at the brewery was pricey, but I was just at my local beer store outside of Howard County and saw a 6 pack of their IPA and it was $15. This is the first time I've seen them in stores and am slightly interested, but not $15 interested. Bad first impression.
    Has anyone else seen there stuff in stores? Similar price?
     
  2. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    Looks like it was cans of Big Punisher. I had no idea they were canning, but alas I don't follow them closely since I can usually get all their stuff at Max's. The can design is quite nice.

    Their blog post on canning was a bit interesting to see the process it takes to bring a beer to cans.
     
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  3. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I hear what you're saying, but maybe here's another way to look at this.

    It's been some years now, but I still recall when Brian S. from Stillwater introduced his stateside saison at 72 hours of Belgium some years back. As a local, I was excited to see the introduction of Stillwater beers, as I thought it reflected well on the Baltimore beer scene (as the beer was pretty good I thought). I had heard that the initial pricing was going to be a bit on the high side, but was told that this was due to a lot of initial start-up costs Brian incurred, plus the fact that the initial batch was pretty small and he'd paid a premium for the ingredients he used. I was told that over time, the expectation was that the price would come down and the beer would be a lot more affordable. The promised price reduction, ahem, took a bit longer than I was given to understand it would take, but at long last the price HAS come down.

    Anyway, my feeling is that if I/we gave Brian S. and Stillwater an initial pass on the pricing, maybe we should do the same for these guys as well? Obviously, if the quality isn't there, and/or the price doesn't eventually come down, in time the marketplace will take care of Jailbreak brewing
     
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  4. imbrue002

    imbrue002 Initiate (0) Oct 10, 2014 Maryland

    I bought Big Pun last night at Shawan. It was $12.99 iirc. Worth it? Well, its not mind blowing or anything. But different enough to warrant a try if you like tropical sticky sweet DIPAs. I wouldn't pay any more than that though.
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    As noted in the link in post #2, the brewery does not own a canning line but contracts packaging out to another company:
    While these mobile canners allow a small brewer with limited capital to join the canning fad, their services aren't cheap (I've seen second party quotes of adding up to $10 [!] a case for the brewery, but actual rates are usually not noted on the canners' sites). They are the equivalent of renting a car rather than owning one. Works economically for short/temporary periods but not in the long term.
     
  6. Brutalism_X

    Brutalism_X Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2013 Maryland

    I had their Big Punisher at the Maryland State Fair this year. I really enjoyed it! I was excited when I saw it in can version last week. It was 15 though and well, my excitement quickly diminished. I know they are new, local, and all of that but that's a tough one.
     
  7. DeutschesBier

    DeutschesBier Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2009 Maryland

    Jailbreak is a highly leveraged operation. I'm not surprised to see high price points on their stuff. I've only had a couple offerings from them, but I have yet to be impressed.
     
  8. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    I think they could take a note from Burley Oak on the whole patience thing. Yes, Burley Oak did use a kickstarter to buy a hand-canning machine, but they've also been around for 3 years and have established themselves a bit more. People know their product and know what to expect from them. It will be interesting to see what Burley Oak's price point for cans are; however, I'm much more excited for them. I wonder if Jailbreak will keep canning after this initial distribution.
     
  9. scraff

    scraff Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2003 Maryland

    I gave in for a $14+ 6 pack canned on 9/26. It's damn tasty, but it's also the last 6 I buy at that price point. I'd buy more often it was Flying Dog, Duclaw, Heavy Seas, or Evolution type pricing ($11). No need to rake people people across the coals just because you're the new kid on the block. Not going to win a lot of people over that way. I mean JB fronted their own 2 million to start, so please no whining about being poor now. Thanks. :wink:
     
  10. justinbonner

    justinbonner Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2013 Maryland

    Figured I'd chime in for what it's worth. While the Big Punisher cans are fairly expensive, it is one of the the most expensive beers we make. Much has to do with the ridiculous amount of hops we add into the beer, the types of hops we use(some of which are direct imported from New Zealand) and primarily due to the low yields. Completely understand if $13-15/6pk isn't your bag but the decision had to be made, price it as such or not can it based on the cost to produce it. Unfortunately, we recently detected through quality control analysis that we had some aging issues with the first few runs and just recently released a recall of all affected batches. It's an ornery beer but one we stand by. We've corrected the issue but still a hit for sure.

    We also recently released our Welcome To Scoville (jalapeno IPA) in can and at a shelf price of about $11, more in line with similar ABV beers in the market. We'll be releasing our Infinite (amber) in 4-6weeks which should have a shelf price of about $10/6pk. Hope you allow us the opportunity to earn your loyalty. Releasing our most expensive beer first may not have been the perfect sequence of releases but it's still being well received thus far. Thanks for taking the time to even discuss our little operation. Drink well.
     
  11. beernuts

    beernuts Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 Virginia

    I'll be on the lookout for the Welcome to Scoville, I love pepper beers. Unfortunately I haven't seen anything in Virginia yet but hopefully its just a matter of time.
     
  12. wd09601

    wd09601 Crusader (416) Jul 29, 2012 Maryland

    I look forward to the upcoming cans.
     
  13. scottDC

    scottDC Pundit (784) Jul 3, 2013 District of Columbia

    Haven't seen this one around yet, but $15 doesn't seem too outrageous for a DIPA.

    OTWOA is $17.99, Hardywood's Great Return is usually $12-$13 for a 4pk. Can't vouch for the quality, but there's definitely a precedent for the pricing. Hops aren't cheap.
     
  14. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    I'm blown away at the whinging in this thread over the pricing. Don't like it? Don't buy it, it's that simple. But as some have noted, this is what high-quality DIPAs cost today, end of story.

    edit: I mean, if it's high-quality. I have no idea, but the pricing isn't out of whack for 72oz of DIPA.
     
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  15. leeds376

    leeds376 Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Wait, so people are complaining about spending $14/15 for a 6pk of DIPA?
     
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  16. DrBier

    DrBier Pooh-Bah (2,198) Jun 12, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    $15 is not over the top for a DIPA six pack. In todays scene if you don't want to spend that much, you do have other choices, but as others have pointed out for a DIPA this pricing is pretty much in line with the current market. Do appreciate Justinbonner's response. Public perception (or love for the brewery) has alot to do with what people want or are willing to pay as well. A month or so ago Pizza Boy, up here in PA, released some of their "regular" beers in bombers. West Shore IPA (not a DIPA) which I really like is selling for $8 for a 22oz bomber at the brewery, even more if you get it further down the distribution line, or more than $24 a six pack! I posted on a Pizza Boy thread about how I thought this pricing was out of line and received push back that I wasn't being fair, go figure.
     
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  17. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    6-pack, 12oz = 72oz. $15 = .21/oz
    4-pack, 16oz = 64oz. $12-$14 (avg. for a 4-pack of very good hoppy beer, i.e. 077xx, Heady, Gandhi, Abrasive, etc.) = .20/oz

    people are bitching over ONE PENNY MORE PER OZ

    lulz
     
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  18. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Pooh-Bah (1,567) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado
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    I just bought a case of Firestone Walker Double Jack at 9.99 a 4 pack on sale; usual price 11.99. That sale price works out to 14.99 a sixer. Sculpin goes for about that here. My understanding from 2000 miles away is that Double Sunshine is more like $16 for a 4 pack of 16 oz cans? Apologies if I have that wrong. But this pricing seems unremarkable to an outsider from CO.
     
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  19. wd09601

    wd09601 Crusader (416) Jul 29, 2012 Maryland

    The prices are in line with many established quality DIPAs, but I was shocked at the price tag for a brand new brewery. I'll probably give them a shot down the road.
     
  20. Crashdown

    Crashdown Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2012 Virginia

    Im surprised to see the prices this crazy in the stores. I've been there and done their tour and had some beer -- they said they were breaking out into stores, etc -- maybe its just because theyre new? Distributors adding $ in case they dont sell in stores as a risk maybe?
     
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