Jerusalem Artichoke/Sunchoke?

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  1. gmfessen

    gmfessen Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2006 Michigan

    Has anyone ever used these in brewing? I read they are fermentable and are commonly used in France for alcohol production. Any incite/info anyone might have would be appreciated!
     
  2. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    I've never brewed with them but I've cooked them quite a bit. They are a starchy tuber. I would assume that you could boil them until tender, smash them up, and add them to your mash like you would pumpkin but you would be seriously in danger of a stuck mash if you don't use a boatload of rice hulls. Plus you would need to use a base malt with enough diastatic power to share as they don't have any and would need some help converting.

    Also, The flavor is pretty subtle, I don't know what you would get out of them besides fermentable sugars out of it. You might as well use potatoes, they're cheaper.

    Go for it dude and send me a bottle.:grinning:
     
  3. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Pretty much what hopsandmalt said, but I will add that if the subtle artichoke flavor comes through, is that something you really want in a beer?
     
  4. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    ...Or just add some Cynar to your beer.
     
  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I found these unappealing to eat when I tried them a couple summers back. Starchy, I wanna say something reminded me of rutabaga, although I only had that unappealing starchy veg once, too, ~15 years back, so I may not have remembered well. My main point was pretty much made by others - the best thing a plainjane starch has to offer is gravity points, which can be had with sugar at almost no trouble at all.
     
  6. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Yeah, I've never cared for artichokes, either. Never come across a sunchoke, but I assume they're very similar. Never liked avocado, as well.
     
  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Not really like an artichoke at all, in my recollection. I enjoy artichokes -- marinated, on pizza, dipped in butter. But never everything tasty needs to be explored as a beer.
     
  8. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Oh, addendum! I don't like boiled artichoke, where you dip the end of the leaf in sauce. When cooked into a sauce for pasta, or as a dip with Parmesan and jalapenos, they're awesome! For some reason, my mind always goes to the former. Probably because that's the way my family always ate them. And, that's the kind of flavor you would likely get in a beer. Now, if you properly cooked the hearts, those might add a good flavor to a beer. ...Maybe.
     
  9. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    I like artichoke and rutabaga. In now way would I want artichoke in beer. Rutabaga is definitely starchy and I wouldn't want it in beer (and I don't think anybody would), but I think it could conceivably be tolerable, though probably very heavy. However, if you're formulating a recipe where your mere aim is 'tolerable' you might want to reassess. On the other hand, Dogfish Head (don't take that as a slight. I a big fan of their their mentality, but sometimes they don't seem to hit the mark).
     
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