Jester King Gin Barrel Nocturn Chrysalis!

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by CheChe, May 26, 2016.

  1. rainerschuhsler

    rainerschuhsler Aspirant (276) May 17, 2012 Texas
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    The way I see it, your staff were the first 30 people in line today. Your posts usually say, "about [xxx] bottles" so I think it's safe to assume it's never a precise number. Whether you had 520 or 550 bottles available for sale to the public today, it doesn't change the fact that some people were going to show up too late and leave empty handed.
     
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  2. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Disciple (370) Jan 20, 2010 Texas
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    I know you did, I was just sticking up for the guy who everyone was attacking. You can't have a complaint in the craft beer world without someone calling you entitled. People like to gang up on people from behind their keyboard on this forum. Sometimes deserved, sometimes not. I felt the latter in this case. And as I said, don't let one unhappy customer ruin what 500+ other people thought was the best way to release a small bottle count to date.
     
  3. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Disciple (370) Jan 20, 2010 Texas
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    Uh-oh, mods are here. So...how's the beer anyway?
     
  4. INWarner413

    INWarner413 Aspirant (204) Mar 25, 2014 Texas
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    I have massive respect for JKs employees. They did an outstanding job today.
     
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  5. INWarner413

    INWarner413 Aspirant (204) Mar 25, 2014 Texas
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    That being said, ownership needs to think things through more. Its a delicate line between brewing what you want and brewing what customers want...and JK has been on the wrong side for several months now.
     
  6. Krumb

    Krumb Initiate (94) Jan 30, 2008 Texas
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    Can you further explain this statement? Do you think customers should dictate what a brewery produces?
     
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  7. lilsquiggz

    lilsquiggz Initiate (139) Feb 17, 2015 Texas
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    I showed up on time, not "so late". I was told by an employee that the cut off was 520, which was a mistake, and by the time our 5 second exchange was over at least 20 people had jumped me in line, one of them even posted about it in this thread. It seemed futile at that point whether some flakes happened or not.
     
  8. WolfBrewer

    WolfBrewer Initiate (19) Mar 23, 2015 Texas

    If you showed up "on time," you are pushing it for these releases. Get there earlier next time and in the meantime, contact Jeff and he will obviously help you out. Whining incessantly on here won't help your cause.

    Hah, have you read/heard their motto? Pretty clear.
     
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  9. caffeineTX

    caffeineTX Initiate (189) Aug 29, 2014 Texas
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    i missed the release. first jk release ive struck out on in 2 years but i had a friend that was cool enough to open a bottle with me tonight

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    one of the few GBA beers i've actually enjoyed. wasn't thinned out at all and had a ton of rosemary present from the revolution gin. hopefully i will be able to trade for 1 or 2 of these to keep my set going

    que sera sera if i cant land one, i mean end of the day its just beer right?
     
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  10. lilsquiggz

    lilsquiggz Initiate (139) Feb 17, 2015 Texas
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    I swear half of you aren't reading a damn thing I've said. When I say "on time" I mean I would've gotten a bottle had I not been told that I wouldn't get one by standing in line. I was there early, as stated multiple times previously, and several people who line jumped me and several who had been in line behind me got bottles. I was there before all of them.
     
  11. icetrauma

    icetrauma Devotee (483) Sep 7, 2004 Texas

    They read what you stated but in this forum particularly, If you say anything negative about not getting a limited release then you are whining/entitled. No matter what the circumstances are. Your best bet is to contact JK and hash it out with them and keep it private between y'all. It's just not worth the effort and time to plead your case in public for the above mentioned reasons.
     
  12. kmello69

    kmello69 Defender (618) Nov 27, 2011 Texas
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    We get it. You've said it over and over again. Now put on your big boy pants and talk to Jeff directly about it. Going through it over and over and over and over on here won't accomplish anything.
     
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  13. MarkKeiser

    MarkKeiser Initiate (142) Sep 24, 2014 Texas
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    Seems like you should have went and got your spot back in line. I left the line several times and had no issues getting back in my spot.
     
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  14. MLDucky

    MLDucky Defender (632) Oct 12, 2013 Texas
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    Someone that actually drank the beer. Kudos!
     
  15. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Aspirant (258) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

    That's not true. We've been on the wrong side for years.
     
  16. djd07

    djd07 Aspirant (203) Oct 3, 2012 Texas
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    juniper*
     
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  17. gcg49

    gcg49 Initiate (175) Dec 29, 2014 Texas
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    Opening an hour early and getting through the entire line before the original opening time was awesome. Seemed like the lines for pours and other to-go bottles around 11:30-noon were more painful than the release itself. I suppose that's a good problem to have.
     
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  18. jamescain

    jamescain Meyvn (1,002) Jul 14, 2009 Texas
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    I'm glad I stayed home and brewed a pale ale

    Small releases make me sad
     
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  19. Abbbp

    Abbbp Crusader (715) Mar 9, 2013 Texas
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    What's the bottle count on the pale ale? :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  20. jamescain

    jamescain Meyvn (1,002) Jul 14, 2009 Texas
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    Zero...draft only, no growler :wink:
     
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  21. erushing

    erushing Disciple (303) Dec 4, 2014 Texas
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    This is an exceedingly weird statement considering the silly discussion over the last couple weeks about the collab beers, subtlety, how they should "get back to fruited sours", etc. Isn't this release the opposite of what people were complaining about last week?

    That being said, ownership needs to consult with me more about the timing of these releases. I was in STL/Illinois all weekend and had to resort to drinking some swill from Side Project instead of standing in line for hours for this. :angry:
     
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  22. Chadzero

    Chadzero Initiate (149) Dec 20, 2008 Texas
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    I wouldn't doubt that the other botanicals are present. That juniper character of that gin is very balanced compared to the other flavors. I think that's one of the reasons I like it so much.
     
  23. GreatStoutman

    GreatStoutman Defender (684) Jan 5, 2016 Texas
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    This has been fun to read...

    I couldn't make it to the release because of wife, kids, inlaws, blah blah... but I did randomly fall into NC Blend 3 at Odd Duck while getting brunch on Sunday. Waiter said it was left over from an event, so that kind of felt like scoring a bottle.
     
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  24. caffeineTX

    caffeineTX Initiate (189) Aug 29, 2014 Texas
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    it was an inside joke, DJ was there with me when my friend opened the bottle
     
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  25. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Zealot (541) Nov 20, 2011 Texas
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    In every business, customers dictate what is produced over the long haul. If a company doesn't produce a product or provide a service that customers want to buy, they won't be in business very long. Customers dictate with their wallet.
     
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  26. WanderFlora

    WanderFlora Initiate (73) Oct 4, 2015 North Carolina
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    Did y'all know that 3.1 million children die from starvation in the world annually?
     
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  27. mgr78704

    mgr78704 Zealot (599) Oct 28, 2013 Texas
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    How much?
     
  28. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Zealot (541) Nov 20, 2011 Texas
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    That assumes JK actually checked IDs yesterday. Which they did not. At least did not anywhere in my vicinity. Lol
     
  29. Chuck-17

    Chuck-17 Initiate (131) Sep 9, 2013 Texas
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    I think the release went great. The line moved really fast and they seemed very organized. Having two lines was a great idea. The entire staff was friendly as always and people kept thanking them for how smooth things went. The parking attendant even got creative to help find additional spots to park. Kudos to Jeff and the JK staff. See you at the next release.
     
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  30. jamescain

    jamescain Meyvn (1,002) Jul 14, 2009 Texas
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    And people keep voting "yes" with their wallets for what they consider as mediocre products from JK, meaning they can continue to do what they want.
     
  31. GreatStoutman

    GreatStoutman Defender (684) Jan 5, 2016 Texas
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    $38... which is, you know, kind of pricey for a breakfast beer, but whatever.
     
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  32. mattchow

    mattchow Disciple (319) Jun 24, 2012 Texas
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    you can really taste the rareness and butthurt. :grinning:
     
  33. pwsoldier

    pwsoldier Devotee (438) Apr 26, 2007 Texas

    FTFY.
     
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  34. mph005

    mph005 Aspirant (263) Nov 25, 2013 Texas
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    When I got to the table, both people on each side of me were asked for ID.
     
  35. jamescain

    jamescain Meyvn (1,002) Jul 14, 2009 Texas
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    This is because you're old :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  36. ElChuques

    ElChuques Initiate (171) Oct 8, 2014 Arkansas

    You must mean JK should do exactly what you want? Because...

    Which is totally true, because...

    Exactly. They are certainly having zero issue moving their product, as evidenced by a 600 person line for a single bottle of beer.

    @jesterkingbeer When was the last time you guys had buy back product from retail or destroy unsold bottles?
     
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  37. moderatemath

    moderatemath Initiate (11) Apr 22, 2014 Texas

    Came for the salt. Was not disappointed.
     
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  38. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Aspirant (258) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

    We've bought back product twice. Once was the over-carbonated Commercial Suicide bottles, which I believe was in 2011. The other time, we bought Noble King back from Flood because we were running out of beer to sell at our tasting room and needed more.

    We've never destroyed unsold bottles, unless we thought the beer didn't meet our quality standards. As I said on the other thread, everything we release sells through with 75% sold onsite at the brewery. I don't write this to sound immodest or to in anyway be boastful, but since our management skills were challenged, I'd point out that turning down out of state requests for our beer from distributors is a weekly task for us. -- Jeff
     
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  39. Krumb

    Krumb Initiate (94) Jan 30, 2008 Texas
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    Agreed, mostly.

    Are there any signs that JK has been on the wrong side of that consumer demand?

    Was the creation of JK a result of consumer demand, or the result of their own passion for the beers they brew? Did they create that demand? And as consumer tastes change, should they move to follow those trends? Or will there still be a demand from those who continue to share similar tastes (whether large or small), that will allow them to sustain a successful business? Maybe they define the success of JK as a brewery that continues to serve a consumer base that shares in their tastes and passions and sees a small profit over the long haul?

    Genuine curiosity, not trolling. @jesterkingbeer could maybe chime in. (and it looks like they already did)

    Cheers!
     
  40. B-Nut-GoBlue

    B-Nut-GoBlue Disciple (350) Apr 22, 2014 Iowa
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    Nocturn Chrysalis is damned great beer. It also boasts a higher bottle count; those could be the unmemorable flavors.
     
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