Jester King/Jolly Pumpkin Space Waves

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  1. porter0209

    porter0209 Zealot (677) Mar 22, 2008 Texas

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    We’re very excited to introduce Space Waves — our collaboration with Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales in Dexter, Michigan! Space Waves is a blend of farmhouse ale brewed with lime salt, and barrel-aged sour beer refermented with Michigan cherries.

    It’s no exaggeration to say that brewing with Jolly Pumpkin and Ron Jeffries was a dream come true and a significant milestone for Jester King. Even appearing in the same sentence as Jolly Pumpkin, let alone collaborating with them, is a surreal experience for which we are extremely grateful. I’m not shy at all to say that Jolly Pumpkin is Jester King’s greatest influence.

    About ten years ago, I had my first beer from Jolly Pumpkin, and my life was changed from that point on. I had no idea what beer could be prior to experiencing it. It was like I tried something from a different planet. Not long afterward, I began experimenting with mixed culture fermentation as a homebrewer, trying to make something at least 1/100th as good as Jolly Pumpkin. I listened to Ron Jeffries’ interviews on The Brewing Network over and over again trying to decipher the imaginative nature of his philosophy and approach. Bam Bière and Calabaza Blanca became pinnacles for me. The ethereal nature of the beer, coupled with its reversion from modern, industrial brewing process, elevated it to magical status in my mind. As I sat in an office cube years ago, I’d occupy my time staring at the whimsical label art and allowing my mind to be transported to far away places inhabited by swashbuckling cats and treasure chests filled with golden elixir. As I hope you can tell, Jolly Pumpkin is really personal and important to me, and has occupied a significant portion of my life.

    As time progressed, every opportunity to be in anyway connected to Jolly Pumpkin has been a milestone for Jester King. For instance, getting advice from Ron Jeffries about barrel selection, pouring Luciérnaga and Oro de Calabaza at our first ever Funk n’ Sour Fest, having Jolly Pumpkin come to Texas, and most recently collaborating with Jolly Pumpkin are all major events for us. People have asked me before why Jester King has never made a beer with Jolly Pumpkin, and the honest answer is that I was too afraid to ask. Well, it ended up working out, and now we have. I couldn’t be happier about it.

    Space Waves is an ode to the pioneering nature of Jolly Pumpkin, its ethereal approach to brewing, and its founder Ron Jeffries. I think the label art for the beer by Josh Cockrell captures this sentiment. Our own “Captain Spooky” — Garrett Crowell — helped create the recipe. We took some of Ron Jeffries’ favorite flavors – bitter and salty — and combined them with the character we get from refermented Michigan cherries in our Montmorency vs. Balaton.

    Space Waves was brewed at Jester King on April 14th, 2016 with well water, locally malted barley from Blacklands Malt, raw Texas wheat, hops, and lime salt. We fermented it in stainless steel with our mixed culture of brewers yeast, native yeast, and native bacteria. A relatively large dose of hops in the boil was intended to keep the bacteria in our mixed culture at bay, at least for a little while! We then blended it with Montmorency vs. Balaton, our barrel aged sour beer refermented with cherries at a ratio of about twelve to one (farmhouse ale to MvB). We packaged it on May 31st, 2016, then let the blend naturally referment in bottles, kegs and casks for another two months prior to release.

    At the time of packaging, Space Waves was 5.6 percent alcohol by volume, 42 IBU, 4.3 pH, and had a specific gravity of 1.002 (0.5 degrees Plato). It will be released at our tasting room at 4pm on Friday, August 5th, 2016. It will be available by the glass, as well as at bottles to go (750ml/$14) with a limit of four per customer per day. About 3,000 bottles are available. Aside from special events and the portion of the batch we send to Jolly Pumpkin, we don’t anticipate Space Waves seeing distribution.

    We really hope you enjoy this beer, which was very special for us to make, and I believe represents a major milestone for our brewery.
     
  2. OliOxenFree

    OliOxenFree Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2014 Texas

    Looks delicious. If not too hot out, we'll have to mosey on over for some.
     
  3. JDice20

    JDice20 Zealot (639) Aug 14, 2013 Louisiana

    i need this
     
  4. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Texas

    Dat glass!!! @jesterkingbeer is it the thin glass or the thicker ones like from the tasting room?
     
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  5. ShoelessHobo

    ShoelessHobo Initiate (0) May 27, 2016 Texas

    This sounds amazing...can't wait!
     
  6. mig100

    mig100 Pooh-Bah (2,747) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Line was absurd for this release. I live 10min away and expected to roll up and purchase bottles and just leave. 45min wait for bottles, I assume because the description said "blended with montmorency v balaton" even though it's 1/12th and barely even detectable.

    Good beer and collab with Jolly Pumpkin, but wow JK and sour beer have come pretty far lol

    But hey, props to JK, great business to be in apparently. I am only excited to see this much interest in mixed culture fermentation.
     
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  7. txyankee

    txyankee Initiate (166) Jun 27, 2015 Texas

    Think the line was bad because they didn't expect the crowd so didn't have as much staff on hand. Last weekend was pretty quite, but maybe it was atrial fatigue. Wasn't that impressed with the beer on draft, got no sour or cherry just funk and bitter. Bottle is much nicer.
     
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  8. ATA1K

    ATA1K Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2013 Texas


    I cut my order from 8 bottles to 6 after tasting the draft. But I know a lot of times draft vs bottles is different. Glad to have the feedback from someone who has tried both. Also, a lot of these age really nicely, and hopefully that's the case here. Might pick up a couple more.
     
  9. mig100

    mig100 Pooh-Bah (2,747) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Had draft there and cracked a bottle last night. Decent, but didn't really dig either. Hopefully it evolves.
     
  10. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    It's 4.3 pH, it's not trying to be a sour.
     
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  11. MarshallBirdhouse

    MarshallBirdhouse Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Kentucky
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    Did this survive the weekend? I'll be down at JK on Friday and would love to bring a few bottles home with me.
     
  12. MichaelHatter

    MichaelHatter Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2015 Virginia

    I was there Saturday afternoon and they seemed to have plenty. Lines were non-existent except occasionally at the tasting room the 2.5 hours I was there. I too was a little underwhelmed by Space Waves. It was nice, but the M v B was slight. Hopefully it will develop more character in the bottle.
     
  13. porter0209

    porter0209 Zealot (677) Mar 22, 2008 Texas

    Still plenty left as of Sunday early afternoon...and was a pleasant surprise to find Jeppe still there Sunday afternoon both in bottles to go and for pours.
     
  14. txyankee

    txyankee Initiate (166) Jun 27, 2015 Texas

    I was not expecting a mouth puckering, reach for the tums sour bomb. What I was expecting was a saison with a hint of sour cherry from the MvB. What I got on draft was just a saison. In the bottle, while muted, I could detect a little sour cherry on the mid palate, making it a bit more interesting.
     
  15. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Was there a difference in carbonation from draft to bottle? I haven't had either, but I'm assuming the bottle had a higher carbonation, which probably helped with the perception of acidity from the added carbonic acid.
     
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  16. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I read through their post again. Added hops would reduce the amount of souring during fermentation and it is a large ratio of farmhouse beer to sour beer. Think about pouring 11 ounces of saison and adding 1 ounce of lambic. You might get a hint of tartness, but at that ratio it might be difficult to detect, depending on the bitterness of the saison.
     
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  17. Persdawg

    Persdawg Zealot (710) Mar 12, 2015 Texas
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    I got zero cherry fwtw, but it was drinkable for sure. Fairly avg beer
     
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