KBS in Madison

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by SkippyChop, Mar 27, 2013.

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  1. lunarbrew

    lunarbrew Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2013 Wisconsin

    Honestly, I find this so smooth and rich that I'm missing the heat a little. Easily one of the creamiest and most well-balenced BB stouts I've had. I love the nose. It's blowing my mind as we speak. Coffee flavor isn't quite as prevalent as in the PM for me, but I could care less. This beer is so much more than that. I think KBS sweeps the floor with PM in every way. Compared with the 2012? I also had 2012 aged, so I'll let you know in a few months!
     
  2. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    I like Peruvian Morning a lot, especially this year's batch (not just because it's not infected :stuck_out_tongue:) and I am drinking one right now, but yeah, it is in no way shape or form a competitor of KBS. Really hope I can get a damn single or two, would love a fresh one (have also only had an aged 2012, and have two of them left).
     
  3. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    I agree with you both, it's like a doubly enhanced version of Peruvian Morning. If you doubled all the characteristics that Peruvian Morning brings in (particularly aroma, flavour and mouthfeel), you get KBS. I could smell the nose when I opened the bottle, it was that strong. And the mouthfeel- really smooth and creamy with a thick body. Peruvian Morning simply feels like a thin bourbon+coffee bomb in comparison. Which is a shame because IMO, from a brewing perspective they're really not that far from where KBS is. At the very least I think Central Waters should up the caramel malts, or whatever else contributes dextrins, in their Satin Solstice (base beer for their BA stouts), because that'd help a lot in the mouthfeel department. And I can't see it making it any more expensive than $12/4pk. In the meantime, I'll happily drink my KBS :slight_smile:
     
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  4. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    Pfft, in Milwaukee it's almost more expensive than that. :stuck_out_tongue: Not by MUCH, but still..
     
  5. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    BTW if you don't get your hands on any KBS in Milwaukee, come on over to Madison :wink:, the land of $11.99/4pk Peruvian Morning!
     
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  6. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    That would cost me more than a 4pk locally. :stuck_out_tongue: I do need to go there eventually (I'm a east coast transplant), sounds like a pretty nice beer town.
     
  7. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    Well what I meant was that I know I'd be happy to share some KBS with you if you were to make it over here!
     
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  8. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Grand Pooh-Bah (4,064) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    You found a gold mine of KBS then...
     
  9. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
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    I actually got to try PM blinded compared to Dragons Milk. I actually wondered if I would be able to pick it out since I have such a strong dislike for that beer. The exact second that PM hit my lips I knew it. That beer just tastes off to me.

    Those complex stouts are very much a matter of personal preference. I had Dark Truth from Boulevard this year for the first time. It is an Imperial Stout, but uses a belgian yeast, and I LOVE that beer so much. I gave a few bottles to my buddies and they all said "meh".

    BBPt5 was a top 5 drinking experience of all time. You might even be able to move a bottle of KBS for a bottle of that stuff. You wouldnt be disappointed
     
  10. ABisonEgo

    ABisonEgo Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    For some reason, i much prefer peruvian morning to kbs flavorwise and Id imagine with a year or two on it, even moreso. Only thing i think peruvian morning could use was some body. Maybe since its so much easier to get obtain that my brain tricks itself into thinking that way after i slare it the headache
     
  11. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Devotee (364) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Last night, after the Great KBS Race, I had a fresh KBS, then a 2012 BCBS from last October or so. I much prefer the KBS. My fiance preferred the BCBS, mostly because the hotness has mellowed out somewhat, but she doesn't drink these kind of beers much at all. I don't suppose anyone in town with KBS might want to trade for some 2012 BCBS? Maybe some of you prefer the BCBS over KBS? BM if interested.
     
  12. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Devotee (364) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    For those who don't know, BCBS was much more readily available in Madison than KBS. BCBS was in stores for days/weeks, and Madison got at least 2 rounds of it. I'm just throwing a potential trade out there in case we've got anybody who loves/prefers BCBS over KBS.
     
  13. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    I actually do prefer BCBS over KBS but I have more than enough '12 BCBS to last me a while. However, if you have any '11 BCBS, we're talking a whole other ball game. Good luck, I think someone will take you up on it!

    Incidentally, my fiancee is also a big fan of BCBS although she isn't a big beer drinker at all. As far as she's concerned, BCBS > all stouts >>>>> anything hoppy.
     
  14. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Devotee (364) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I just got into the fold of this need-to-know, ask-at-the-counter type of beer in October later year, so I never had any '11 BCBS. I think I first found BCBS in 2009 or 2010, and it was on the shelf at Woodman's West. I bought a 4-pack, loved it, went back the next day and got another one. I didn't see it on the shelf in years since then, so I just assumed that GI stopped making it or stopped distributing it in Wisconsin or something.
     
  15. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    Boy.. I'll never know what that was like since I got into the need-to-know business, and non-NG beers, last fall. Finding BCBS on the shelf. Sounds like a myth/legend these days.
     
  16. cptnspeed1

    cptnspeed1 Initiate (0) May 20, 2010 Wisconsin

    If you are really looking to do a trade for 1 bottle of 2012 KBS, instead of trying to figure out conversions and run into venn diagram issues why not offer a 2013 for a 2012? Seems like a much easier way of going about things.
     
  17. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Devotee (364) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I'm actually looking to trade 2012 BCBS for more 2013 KBS, if anyone is interested. Also pointing out the difference in availability, so this might be a non-starter. But maybe there are some in Madison who have 2013 KBS and really wish they had more 2012 BCBS, who knows?
     
  18. jegross2

    jegross2 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2010 Illinois

    Last year it was sold in four packs.
     
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  19. 71gto

    71gto Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2009 Illinois

    I know there were some, but few and far between. That is why I said MOST places.
     
  20. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
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    Do a blinded tasting and see which one you like better

    I could be wrong on this, but I have a hard time believing PM will stand up that well to aging. The strong coffee flavor will likely fade in 1 years time. When the distinct coffee flavor drops out, some of the off flavors of the coffee tend to hang back. Also with the weak body, the flavors are likely going to separate out even more rather than mellow and blend.

    I would be interested to hear how it ages. I have a buddy with some 2012 that I do want to try even though it is infected, more because I am curious than anything
     
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