Kegerator problem with foam

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by csice, Dec 29, 2015.

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  1. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    Yes....I have done searches, I am not that helpless. Obviously, as you have stated, there don't seem to be many out there on the market, at least none that really look official, which is why I came here to the people in the know to see if I may be missing out on something.
     
  2. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    The official looking tower coolers are built into the expensive kegerators, hence no need to sell official ones to the masses. The ones available are really just the result of nerds who made their own and perfected the process to the point they were saleable.
     
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  3. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    I see. Well, unfortunately mine was a gift :/
     
  4. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    csice...you may think that a few of us have been unduly harsh, but you have been given tools via this thread to help you solve your problems. I took 20 minutes out of my day on post #4 and that should have solved this issue, yet we've never had an accurate report back as to exactly what is happening.

    You, my friend, started this thread over one month ago...and still have not taken the time to grab a thermometer (which is available at every grocery store you've been in for the last 30 days).

    I'm really not trying to be mean...but in order for us to assist you, you either need to fish or cut bait. I've been doing this for a living for 24 years and somehow you've managed to convince me that I care more about this issue than you.

    OK, that being said, here is your checklist.

    1.) Get a thermometer and put it in a glass of water in the back of your keg box. Please report the temperature after it has been in there for 24 hours.

    2.) Report back the current pressure of the system and whether or not there are any bubbles in your beer line directly above the coupler.


    Together we can whip this thing...you just need to help us to help you. :slight_smile:
     
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  5. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    First of all, I don't think anyone has been mean. Secondly, I have a disability, so I don't get out a whole lot to acquire a thermometer. Third, I did the steps in post #4, which was my response in post #11. I did the steps until I stopped seeing bubbles but it did not seem to help. I am going to get a thermometer on Amazon but I don't believe that is THE issue, although it could be AN issue. I have since doing the steps poured multiple glasses of beer, at which point it is pretty cold unlike the first glass. I would assume if it was just a temperature issue in the tower that it would not last for 4-5 glasses with the same amount of foam. I do appreciate the help a lot by the way, I just don't have a lot of experience with anything like this, so I apologize for my rudimentary at best understanding of the hardware in question.
     
  6. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    you should understand that we also get frustrated. you mentioned that you have a Nostalgia kegerator and it does not work. don't feel special, everyone that has this brand has issues and our frustration is directed at the jerks who made it as well as the assholes who sell them. they are the ones that defile our beloved draft beer. it's not you.
    be patient. you'll fix it, eventually. stick around. until it is fixed there is going to be some well intention-ed ribbing. we like to have fun too you know.

    the thing about getting a good pour is we need to know all the data because it is inter dependent. you might not think you have a temperature issue (you do), but even 2 degrees variable can have an effect on the possible solution. we absolutely need an accurate temperature from a quality thermometer. (there are multiple threads discussing which thermometer to use. it is that important).

    adjusting your kegerator is going to involve patience and a sense of humor.
    you will be very happy when you start to get the perfect pour and trust me, not too much cooler than getting home after work, pouring your own favorite keg beer, enjoying a well presented pint. it is corny but hell it's the truth!

    lastly, all of us helping out are pouring perfect beer, every time. so consider that.


    Cheers.
     
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  7. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    You are making me thirsty and it is only quarter to 10.
     
  8. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    i don't quite understand. is your kegerator broken? empty keg? :astonished:
     
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  9. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    Classic. It's not even 9:30am and Bill has already nailed 'line of the day'.
     
  10. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Had to wait until 4:00 to solve the problem. The keg of Captain Lawrence IPA was calling to me all day. Thank goodness it can't text me. You get that up your way Bill? No chance of it for you IA.
     
  11. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    Actually I've had quite a few of Scottie Vaccaro's beers. A very good friend (and former BA) and I used to overnight refrigerated growlers from our favorite local brewers.

    Here is my 2007 review of CL Pleasantville Smoked Porter: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/12959/28296/?ba=IceAce
     
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  12. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    The temp of the water at the bottom of fridge was 39 and on top of the keg was 45.
     
  13. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    that is one problem to solve.

    you can be sure the beer in the line leading to the faucet is warmer than 45. you can't pour 45 degree beer without a lot of foam. the gas is absorbed nicely at 39 degrees and comes out of solution at 45 degrees.
    the beer is coming from the very bottom of the keg. that is where the "spear", a giant stainless steel straw inside the keg picks up the beer. the tower fan will blow cold air from the bottom of the box up to the line and faucet. well, it's supposed to. you will probably have to seal the tower a bit as well, because that Nostalgia tower is going to leak like a sieve. you will be blowing cold air into your room and the compressor will never keep up.

    so get yourself a tower cooler. you must have a tower cooler. you must pour consistent 38 degree beer. ok, 40. maybe. but I don't even like that.

    then we can work on applied pressure and line length.
    Cheers.
     
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  14. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    Before I go on this endeavor, any suggestions or tips on how to build one from you guys if that is the best way to go?
     
  15. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    On the Google link provided above in Post #19, link #5 from the top will tell you everything you need to know.
     
  16. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    I should also add that I poured about 50 ounces of beer last night and it was all foam the whole time.
     
  17. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    The temperature needs to be consistent from the bottom of the keg to the faucet. The tower cooler will help this because between the air returning from the shanks and the air being drawn in at the bottom of the cold plate you will cause some circulation. Think of what happens when you pour from a warm bottle of soda into a cup of ice .... foam. Inconsistent temperatures cause the release of the CO2. Pour cold soda onto ice and you get a nice fizzy drink. If you can't get a thermometer, I can't see you getting a cooler built yourself. Spend the $30 online and while you are at it put a thermometer in the cart. Is your thermostat maxed out, i.e. as cold as it can get?
     
  18. csice

    csice Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2012

    I'm not sure what the thermometer drops to. I guess I might check out this cooler at amazon, it seems like one of the few out there, although the reviews make me dubious as to the quality.

    I hope this eliminates the issue, seems like I'm going to be throwing some time, cash, and frustration at this problem thanks to nostalgia. I feel fairly confident I could probably open the faucet and fill a bucket and it would still be pouring 80% foam at the end. Thanks again for taking your time to help me out guys.
     
  19. FMPLover24

    FMPLover24 Aspirant (257) Dec 1, 2011 Kansas

    I recently built a tower cooler myself there are some parts you will have to get at a home improvement store and the remaining parts I got from Amazon. You will need at least a drill, some drill bits and a hole saw bit.
     
  20. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    On another forum a Nostalgia owner I was trying to help finally wound up replacing his shanks and we solved the foaming.
     
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