Kegging Problems HELP!!!

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  1. darvinlikemarvin

    darvinlikemarvin Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2012 Iowa

    I was going to keg my first batch of homebrew last weekend and ran into an issue that I cannot figure out.

    Equipment -
    5 gal ball lock corny keg,
    5lb co2 tank,
    threaded plastic disconnects for gas and liquid

    I filled the keg part full with Star San. Then I closed everything up, connected the gas and liquid lines, and filled the keg with co2 to run Star San through the liquid line. As soon as i turned on the co2, water started coming out the top of the black plastic disconnect.

    Here are the troubleshooting steps I went through (all unsuccessful):

    - took the black disconnect off and kept the pressure on the tank to see if the leak was happening at the metal posts....no water coming out with the disconnect off

    - double checked that I had the gas and liquid posts on the correct side....I have gas connected to the "IN" side and liquid on the other...both were wrench tightened

    - checked the o-rings on the post and dip tubes.....all were in place and intact

    - disassembled the liquid post and pulled out the poppet....nothing appeared out of placed or broken (to the novice eye, that is)

    - disassembled the black plastic disconnect...unscrewed the plug cap....again, nothing appeared cracked or broken

    I ordered a replacement disconnect piece but I'm wondering if anybody has thoughts as to why this is happening??
     
  2. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    There's a little plunger pin thing, a spring, and an o-ring in the black liquid QD (see image below...it's for the gas side, but the QD is the same I believe). Were those three pieces in there? I think the little pin has a right side up (off the top of my head, shorter end of the pin facing up, longer facing down). Did that all check out? Not sure what else to check, the QD is a pretty simple piece of equipment...never had an issue with them, but it seems like if maybe the o-ring is missing or the pin is flipped the wrong way, it might cause a problem.

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  3. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah

    As soon as i turned on the co2, water started coming out the top of the black plastic disconnect.

    If you have liquid coming out of the top of the Black QD, then you have a failure of the pin/spring/o-ring as shown above. Not sure if it is better to repair or replace, but either way should be inexpensive.

    At least you did your troubleshooting before you added the beer.
     
  4. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    All info above is accurate. As a side note I'd like to recommend filling a squirt bottle full of starsan solution and using that instead of filling a keg with stars an solution. Start with a clean keg. Spray orings and connections as you assemble. Spray the walls let it drip and collect at the bottom. It should be about 1/4 cup. Lid it and flip and shake to coat the inside. Dump it out and spray into the lines, pour it out then connect. You will use a FRACTION of starsan. I use the same basic procedure for my fermenter. The mixture can be kept in the spray bottle until you use it up and have to make more.

    Just a recommendation. No doubt others have an even more starsan saving way, but this works for me.
     
  5. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    A photo might help; it's hard to diagnose without visuals.

    The advice above is good, it's just hard to consider all possibilities with limited knowledge of the situation.

    Teflon tape on threads is often helpful but hard to say without visuals.
     
  6. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    None of the threads on a keg are designed to seal. Thus, teflon tape will do nothing to fix this.
     
  7. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    Agreed they are not designed to seal; that doesn't mean they can't.
     
  8. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    ...and you can drive a wood screw with a hammer :wink:. But I'd strongly advise that you delay the project until after you've replaced the lost/broken screwdriver.

    Seriously, though, we're all just guessing here. It sounds like the connector is at fault (which is still a guess). If you're reasonably handy, it's a simple matter to open it up and troubleshoot it. Even simpler, just replace it.
     
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  9. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    But they probably won't, at least not reliably. Teflon tape works to seal pipe fittings because of the tapered nature of the threaded connectors.

    To the OP: If liquid is coming out the top of the connector, it seems as if it must be due to 1 of 2 things: (1) missing or damaged o-ring (at the top of the diagram JebediahScooter post), or (2) cracked disconnect or plug (also at top of diagram). Disconnects are cheap; buy another.
     
  10. darvinlikemarvin

    darvinlikemarvin Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2012 Iowa

    Thanks so much for the feedback! I already ordered a replacement along with a new set of o-rings and some keg lube. Hopefully that will take care of it.
     
  11. darvinlikemarvin

    darvinlikemarvin Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2012 Iowa

    @JebadiahScooter All the pieces in that diagram were present and appeared to be assembled just like the diagram shows....i did disassemble the connector and found that little pin....who knows!?
     
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