Kegging Question

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  1. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I couldn't find anything that would answer my question, so sorry if this has been asked before.

    I finally kegged my first beer and I purged it and have had it sitting in the fridge with the party tap and CO2 hooked up for 2 weeks @ 12psi. I do believe it is fully carbonated. I pour a glass or two and it seems good.

    My question is we aren't actually drinking the beer for another 2-3 weeks at a party. Do I have to leave the party tap and the CO2 hooked up or could I disconnect them until the party?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Pundit (993) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts

    As long as it is holding pressure you're fine to take it of the CO2 and remove the picinic tap.
     
  3. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    That's what I thought. How do I determine that it is holding pressure for sure?
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Spray all the potential leak points with Starsan Solution or soapy water and see if they bubble.
     
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  5. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Cool! Thanks!
     
  6. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Little bubbling by where the CO2 connects but I reconnected the co2 and then pulled it again and now there is no bubbling....so I should be good then?

    Is there an easy way to clean out the party tap of the beer that was left in the line after disconnecting?
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Sounds like you have a poppet that is borderline. If it's not leaking now, it should be okay as long as you don't disturb it. (And when the CO2 quick disconnect is connected, it won't matter.) I'd replace it on the next batch though.
     
  8. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I would disconnect the tap if only to reduce the temptation to continue sampling it. But I would leave the gas hooked up and set to serving pressure. It's not strictly necessary if it's fully carbed, but the equilibrium thing will continue to fine tune it so you know it'll be right on serving day.
     
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  9. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Agreed. That's why I want to disconnect the tap...there won't be any left come memorial day! I just want to make sure I don't run out of CO2...that's why I wasn't sure. I would hate to get to where we are going in 3 weeks and have the CO2 run out...?

    Yeah it seems that way. It isn't leaking now...so I guess if I let it go (or let the CO2 connected).

    So if I leave the CO2 connected and turned on I shouldn't use up the 5# of CO2 with it just sitting in the fridge?
     
  10. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I salute your self-control for having good beer on tap and reserving it for two weeks.

    It doesn't hurt to leave the tank hooked up to the keg. If there is a small leak you will slowly drain the tank but the beer will stay good. If you disconnect the tank and the keg has a slow leak, you will gradually have flat beer. A poor man's test is to take the tank off the keg for a week+. When you hook it back up and set 12 psi there should not be a rush of CO2 from tank to keg (the noise is noticeable if beer is flat). Ideally your beer will have remained in equilibrium with your headspace (12 psi) and no gas will transfer on hook-up. This may not work for very tiny leaks, but should tell you if there is a big problem.
     
  11. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I didn't plan it out well enough. I am two weeks or so ahead of schedule! Temptation is strong! Thanks for all the great advice everyone! Let's hope A) everything is fine B) I don't drink it all before the party
     
  12. epk

    epk Pundit (849) Jun 10, 2008 New Jersey

    No. Once it reaches equilibrium, it does not absorb anymore Co2. As long as there is no leaks, you are good.
     
  13. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks. That was my biggest worry was using up all the CO2 and running out come the party
     
  14. epk

    epk Pundit (849) Jun 10, 2008 New Jersey

    No prob. You'll find that you can get a lot of mileage, carbing and serving, out of a full canister. Numerous kegs.

    Also, in the event that you can't find a tiny leak, you can always submerge as much as possible under water. I had one that I just couldn't find by spraying with soapy water and finally submerged one of the connections under water and there it was.
     
  15. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah I wasn't sure how much use a 5# CO2 can gets. That's good to know. That was my biggest worry. Maybe I will just hook it up to be safe.

    Can you submerge it while it's full?
     
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Straying from topic just slightly... If you are serious about kegging, you really need to get a backup CO2 tank, because you never really know when your primary tank is going to kick. I have a feeling that in your case it would also reduce stress.
     
  17. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Agreed! I plan on getting one! I just got the Keg and the set up now and this is the very first time I kegged something. I definitely plan to buy a back up soon! I should probably just go get one now then I would be less stressed!
     
  18. epk

    epk Pundit (849) Jun 10, 2008 New Jersey

    On submerging - you would only have to do the top of the tank where the regulator and connections are, but yea, you could hold it under water if it came to it. Just try the spray first though.

    Oh Vikeman, I'm not sure how much more your serious level rises by having a backup, but it is certainly more cautious. I've been doing it with just one, I feel like I'm serious about it, lol. If it kicks, I get it filled, usually within a day or so. $12 fill, no biggie. I guess if you are having it at parties though, cautiousness is a good thing.
     
  19. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    To find leaks, increase the pressure to 50 psi. Small leaks that are likely to cause problems will make an audible hiss at that pressure. There may be other leaks created by the relatively high pressure that wouldn't be a problem at normal serving pressure. Fix those, too - it's cheap insurance. While you want include the keg in this process, don't leave it set to 50 psi for too long. A minute or two shouldn't be a problem. And don't forget to release the excess pressure from the keg when you're done.

    Regarding a second CO2 tank - since you're going to buy one eventually anyway, you might as well do it now. Peace of mind is a beautiful thing. FWIW, if space is not an issue, I'd recommend a bigger tank. Mine are 20#, which is just a bit smaller than a corny keg. It'll pay for itself quickly with just the money you save on refills.
     
  20. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I do agree with Vikeman though because before I got serious about wearing underwear I only had 1 pair. In all seriousness thanks everyone for all the help! We should be good to go and I will hopefully never bottle again!


    Will a 20lb fit inside a standard kegerator along with the corny?
     
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