Kegs Locking style

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Ilanko, Aug 20, 2012.

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  1. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    Hi guys, Can anyone explain why one should chose Keg ball lock or pin lock ?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The best reason to choose ball lock (or pin lock) is because it's your second (or later) keg and it matches the first. i.e. interchangeable parts. They also have slightly different footprints, if space is very tight.

    Edit: I should have added that ball lock kegs are taller and thinner than pin lock kegs. So if floor space in the keezer is key, ball lock would be better, but if height is the problem, pin lock might be better.
     
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  3. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    This is my main reason for using ball locks. 2 pin locks will not fit side-by-side in my kegerator.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Right now ball locks are more expensive, and the supply is starting to dry up. If you think you will buy more at a later date, there may only be pin locks left.

    There is no way you can get the pin lock connects mixed up. You can mix up the ball locks - it is a little hard to do but it can be done. Then getting it off is even harder.
     
  5. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Same here, and my step-father-in-law has pin locks for the height factor.

    I have also heard pin locks may be the better way to go now, with the ball lock supply drying up.
     
  6. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Does this just apply to used soda kegs, or new as well? Assuming the former only..
     
  7. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    At risk of sounding like an ignorant ball-lock owner, could you not (if desired) convert the posts from one to the other, or are they completely different sizes?
     
  8. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Not sure about the sizes but it would be cheaper to just have both kinds of disconnects on hand (provided you have the threaded type).

    Disconnects cost about 1/2 as much as complete posts plus you would only need to make the purchase once instead of every time you bought a pin lock keg.
     
  9. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    If you mix them up it is damn near impossible to get the ball lock post off intact. I have both kinds of kegs and I just change the connectors as needed. Since almost all of my kegs were given to me free, two sets of connectors is cheap and easy.
     
  10. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    The threads to connect the post to the keg body are different on ball locks and pin locks so they are not interchangeable.
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The new ones available (imported) aren't really the same thing. For example, the poppets apparently can't be removed. But I do wish someone would buy one of the damn things and report on it.
     
  12. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    I got four of the new ones as wedding gifts (2.5 and 5 gallon)... While the kegs work great (Easier to seal w/o any leakage; lid seems to fit in tighter with less gap spacing), I miss having the rubber handles on top, as the metal handle hurts to carry (Apparently NB sells new ones with rubber tops). I've been cleaning them in place and haven't had any issues with sanitation or cleaning, but one of the "Out" posts on one of the kegs seems to dislike a couple of my ball lock connectors and has been troublesome to hook up for serving.
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for the report! How do you clean them in place?
     
  14. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I have a "pin Lock" keg that is now a ball lock. The LHBS had posts made to convert pin lock to ball lock. Yes the threads are different, but these were machined to mate up. LHBS is Adventures in Homebrewing in Michigan.
     
  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    You can rig up a system with a pump to recirculate PBW (or the caustic of your choice) out the beer out and back in. There are some stuff on the net on how to do this, I don't remember where at the moment.
     
  16. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I think it's funny how many of us would buy a 3 tier brew stand for upwards of $1000 without hesitation and still bitch about a new ball lock keg costing about $120.
     
  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    So, I take it you ahve not seen these new ones from China? I am not ready for those yet.
     
  18. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    The ones I have are from Italy, and seem to be very well made. Where are the Chinese ones popping up?
     
  19. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Theres a method on BYO thats actually a true CIP procedure.. mine is somewhat bastardized.. I'll fill one keg with an oxyclean solution, hook up CO2 at ~5 psi and the connect a jumper line from the out port onto the respective port on another keg that has its lid off (or I'll just vent the lid on the second keg). After transferring I'll let the oxyclean solution sit for 30 minutes then hook up the next keg to clean. After all have been oxycleaned I'll just flush with water, then do the same thing with sanitizer (minus the water rinse), purge them, and store purged.
     
  20. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I was them at my LHBS (prototypes that were floor displays), I also saw some in use at the NHC.
     
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