King Henry

I don't think it ever was listed as "retired". I actually tried to submit it as such, but was told it has to have been at least one year since it was last brewed.

 

Has it been a year since "rare" DOS has been brewed? I'm tired of seeing that beer on the top 20, such a joke.

 

Its brewed every once in awhile. Why is it a joke being in the top 20?

 

I do know that they just got done with another batch of Pappy recently. The bottles should be out in May. So that leaves a lot of Pappy barrels available for use...

 

It was never listed as "retired" on BA, only on Goose's website.

 

Because it keeps people from ticking 100/100?

 

I really don't see Goose making Rare again. Was it worth it for them to wait two years for the '08 Bourbon County to age in those barrels? That's a long time to wait for a one off.

 

Im not sure i follow you there. I just pointed out that the barrels are empty (or presumed so at this point) and Im sure they have been bought by various breweries for aging. They used those old Rare barrels (which we all know used to be Pappy barrels) to age King Henry. Im just saying the possability is out there, as im sure it will be as long as Pappy makes bourbon.

 

I can only hope they would make King Henry again.
I don't see it happening for a few years though. If anyone has some extra, let me know, I'd love to acquire some more, and I'd make it worth your while.

 

Yeah, I just don't think Goose would want to have to wait two years for their product to age in a barrel. It's not like they're aging a lambic.

 

Many barrel aged spirits spend longer in barrels and are available way cheaper than Rare.

 

I obviously know that. They also have some ready to go every year because they're constantly making them. I just don't think its cost effective for them. That is a lot of beer to store for two years. Surely someone could quote the profits from Rare alone.

 

I am just saying that distillers (and brewers) age their product for 2 years or more. I don't see why couldn't it be made cost effective. In other words, if brewers of similar size can do it, so can they.

 

keep in mind that a big part of what makes pappy so sought after is that the distillery that made it, stitzel-weller, closed in 1991. all new distillate since 2002 have been produced by sazerac at buffalo trace. many bourbon enthusiasts claim that recent releases of PVW15 just isn't the same, and some even say that you're essentially paying a price premium for a blend of mostly buffalo trace product that, while decent, should be a lot cheaper w/o the PVW brand name. the PVW20 is likely now beginning to use some distillate from buffalo trace (the age statement on the bottle denotes the youngest whiskey in the blend). PVW23 will continue to use pure stitzel-weller blends until around 2013-14, after which they will probably need to fall back on some buffalo trace product or perhaps other brands owned by sazerac.

 

I am sure everyone is wishing that enthusiasts would claim that BCBS is not the same after AB took over.

</wishful thinking>

 

Rare deserves to be in the top 20
It should be in the top 5
Maybe top 2

 

It was until it was "retired" since it hasn't been brewed in the past year.

 

As tai4ji2x was getting at, Pappy Van Winkle doesn't make bourbon. Pappy Van Winkle is just a brand, along with Old Rip Van Winkle and the Winkle Family/Special Reserves, now owned by Buffalo Trace.

 

Too much into it, you are reading.

• They will never have those barrels again, that bourbon again.
• They will never have BCBS sitting in barrels of that caliber again for that duration.
• They will never have an english-style barleywine able to sit in barrels of that nature again.
• Thus, King Henry as we currently know it is no more, it is retired.