Kulmbacher Schweizerhof-Brau

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  1. grandolph

    grandolph Initiate (0) May 11, 2014

    I came across a growler of a German beer called Kulmbacher Schweizerhof-Brau in an antique store, and I was pleasantly surprised to find it still full and never opened. The label reads West Germany, so I have assume it was made at least pre 1990. The rubber seal is dried and a little cracked, though still intact. I'm having a hard time finding any information on this particular beer, though I'm at least happy to see I paid less for it full than the same growler goes for on Ebay empty.

    So the grand dilema... not knowing how this puppy was stored and exactly for how long, is it worth cracking it open to see if it is good or crap, or is there more value to keeping it sealed, prolonging the fun of the mystery that is within?

    Does any one know anything about this beer? I contacted the brewery, we'll see if I hear anything.

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  2. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Pooh-Bah (2,811) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    Be sure to post back with what the brewery says. I'm curious.....
     
  3. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    A specialty package from an old brewery and inn, eh? And with a biergarden still in operation -- cool find!

    Some of us folks who collect "breweriana" tend to specialize in collecting foreign packages (bottles, labels, etc), so you might just find someone who doeso: I see a lisiting at a popular auction site for a large format bottle very similar to your example, which sold.

    Here's the present day website and a listing at a webpage spotlighting breweries in the region:
    http://www.fraenkische-brauereien.com/aufgelassene-brauereien/k/kulmbach/kulmbach.html
     
  4. gory4d

    gory4d Maven (1,489) Apr 14, 2007 Texas

  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    There were several German beers imported in the US in those flip-top bottles in the 80s. Altenmunster came in 3 different sizes (plus a regular crowned bottle). Needless to say, they were probably sold for less than the empty bottles cost at a brewpub or growler station today. The 1 liter size went for $3.

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  6. grandolph

    grandolph Initiate (0) May 11, 2014

    Thanks for that Chaz. I originally assumed this was from Kulmbacher Brewery since the coat of arms looks similar. But in the pictures on that link you can see the same coat of arms on my bottle on the side of the picture of the inn. Sweet!
     
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  7. grandolph

    grandolph Initiate (0) May 11, 2014

    Jesskidden.... the import label on that bottle is identical to the one on mine. The antique shop had about 4 pint size bottles of this beer as well, but I decided to pass on those. At $6 bucks a bottle I wasn't nearly as interested in them as the growler.

    My 20 second google search isn't pulling up a website or email for HDT imports. If I get curious enough maybe I'll give them a call.
     
  8. grandolph

    grandolph Initiate (0) May 11, 2014

    Thanks to Chaz's better googleing it's looking like this is from an inn in Kulmbacher, not the Kulmbacher Brewery. I zipped the inn an email. If I don't hear back from them I'll probably give the importer listed on the bottle a call. Even if they exist I can't imagine they have records going back to the 80s.
     
  9. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Would that importer happen to be Joseph Gies of Chicago? A few years back I found a commemorative 50th anniversary mug (E.K.U.), and have to guess that Schweizerhof may have had the EKU facility package their beer for export (as other Kulmbach breweries and brands --like Monchshof and Reichelbrau-- had done.)
     
  10. grandolph

    grandolph Initiate (0) May 11, 2014

    Importer would be HDT imports in Oregon. The picture from Jesskidden looks like the beer shown there was imported by Global Trading, Inc. in Butler Wisconsin. however the barbell style label shown in that picture is identical in style to what's on the growler I fell into.
     
  11. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    The paper 'ribbon' (covering the cantilever wire mechanism holding the stopper down) is a common feature, but the principal of that importer (Florian Wipper, of HDT Imports, Portland, Oregon) seems to have been active until 2008.
     
  12. Bier0815

    Bier0815 Initiate (0) May 3, 2006 New York

    Hello,
    Sorry this response is months to late but here some details:
    Schweizerhof was an old brewery in Kulmbach existing from 1764 until 1980.
    Any beer (Bier) with the Schweizerhof Logo produced after that might be brewed by Kulmbacher Brau AG which has taken over several local breweries including Reichelbräu, Sandler, Kapuziner, EKU.
    Reichelbräu had actually a 150 year anniversary but ceased to exist, but Kulmbacher has still made the glasses and celebrated it as one of their origins. So they may also have made one or the other beer with the Schweizerhof, but my bet is the bottle you have is very old.
    Schweizerhof is still a nice restaurant and Biergarten but they do not make their own beer anymore.

    Hope this helps. And the current importer for the U.S. are the Shelton Brothers in MA.
     
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  13. evergreen

    evergreen Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2014 Oregon

    Kulmbacher schweizerhofbräu was truly and AMAZING beer! I drank it, whenever I could find it, from the time it came available in Eugene, Oregon, until the time they completely stopped making it, which was probalby in the mid to late 80's.
    I spoke to the importer around 2001 or 2002, and they told me that the brewmaster was actually at their office at the time that I called. (sound incredible, I know). The story goes, they had the brewrey in an old Church, which caught fire and burnt down, then they started making beer once again, and that building also burnt down. I think they stopped making it after that. The way I remember it, it was first kulmbacher schweizerhofbräu, then I think it was made for a while by EKU.
    I can honestly say I have never, ever had another beer that was even close to it, and I can still remember the complex and wonderful taste and aroma that this beer had. It was light-copper in color, wonderful malt taste, full-bodied, with lower carbonation, and the hop taste was an underlying light to moderate bitter taste with a hoppy finish that really put a smile on your face. The malt and hop flavors seperated from each other so well that you could taste everything individually.
    I did try to get the recipe from the brewmaster but I was told they would not give it out. One thing that I would really like to do is to talk to someone who lives in Germany and really knows their beers from this region, and could tell me what beer is most similar to kulmbacher schweizerhofbräu, in taste and body, as well as malt to hop balance.
    The other thing I would like to do is MAKE this beer so I can have one whenever I want, which would be often! I haven't really drank a beer in about 25 years, due to the fact that this beer is not available anymore.
     
  14. evergreen

    evergreen Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2014 Oregon

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  15. evergreen

    evergreen Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2014 Oregon

    I do think the restaurant/brewhouse still makes the Schweizerhof beer from the old receipe, but it's just that they don't make it in large quantities anymore, for export - please correct me if I am wrong. I am CERTAIN you can still get that beer if you go to their restaurant in Kulmbach, Germany, since there would be no reason on Earth to stop making such a wonderful, favorful, and unique beer.
    I would think that perhaps after the problems that the brewery faced, (fires, etc.) that it may not have been commercially viable to export to USA anymore after the mid-1980's. Once again, anymore who knows for certain, please correct me if there was some other completely different reason.
     
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