Kulminator (Antwerp)

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  1. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    https://www.facebook.com/Kulminator.friends/?fref=ts

     
  2. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Grand Pooh-Bah (3,771) Sep 11, 2002 Massachusetts
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    Sorry to hear Kulminator will be closed for 3 months, but I hope Dirk's knee surgery goes well, and that he is back on his feet and feeling better than ever next February!
     
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  3. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    even worse news.
    UPDATE !!!

    -Allot of you know that Dirk ( the owner ) has a bad knee that should need surgery.
    Now we have a more accurate update about his surgery.

    Starting from 07 November 2016 Kulminator will be closed as Dirk has to undergo surgery on 10/11/16.
    Doctors told him he should AT LEAST take a 3 months break before they can see wether or not he should rest even more, or if there's a chance he can slowly get back to work and open the bar;
    So we'll calculate it for you Kulminator will DEFFINITLY be closed untill at least 10th of February 2017.

    I hope all of you people understand this is a necessary thing that can't be neglected, especially if we want to make sure Kulminator itself can remain existing as long as possible.

    If by any circumstance(s) or compilations Kulminator has to be closed longer, you'll get another update as soon as possible !

    Cheers and think of him the day of his surgery.
     
  4. Albin

    Albin Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2013 Sweden

    Wow, this is sad news. I really hope he'll be better. Had so good memories from Kulminator.
     
  5. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    this is part of a greater problem that you see in Belgium. lots of the old generation getting on in years without a solid contingency plan to sell/pass their business on to a new generation.

    3F got smart and figured out what to do. but you still have a # of stubborn brewers/bar owners that don't appear to have a plan in place. Kulminator's one of them.

    having Dirk as the only person allowed in the cellar is a running joke. closing a business for 3 months is a sad joke and, financially, you hope they are ok with this happening. you also have to wonder if, post surgery, dirk will be able to keep on going to the cellar.
     
  6. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    Does anyone know if cellar bottles are still available up until his surgery? I had heard that he doesn't go into his cellar as much because of his health. I would like to make a trip there before the November closing dates but it would be nice to be able to drink a few options from the cellar. Thanks for any info.
     
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  7. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Grand Pooh-Bah (3,771) Sep 11, 2002 Massachusetts
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    I have not been there recently, but the last I was there (1 year ago), he still went to the cellar, though some nights he would stop going down about an hour before closing if his knee was bothering him.
     
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  8. MrDell

    MrDell Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2014 Switzerland


    I was there 8 weeks ago and he spent the whole evening going down to the cellar.
     
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  9. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    sucks because you can see that he suffers.
    but that oerbier reserva won't drink itself!
     
  10. barrybeerdog

    barrybeerdog Pundit (941) Aug 17, 2012 South Dakota

    Has there ever been any mention of hiring some help or is that a no-go option for Dirk? I'm sure there would be a few "regulars" that would lend a hand.
     
  11. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,313) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
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    I will be in Antwerp next month, and I hope to visit Kulminator. Shit, I would be more than happy to schlep up and down stairs all night to help out.... Best of luck to Dirk....
     
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  12. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    this is something that some Antwerp people can talk about in greater detail.
    Dirk's talked to me briefly about the cellar. it's apparently a few levels deep, very narrow and stretches down the city block. how much of this is true and how big it is, i don't know.
    he's said it's not really organized, so only he knows where things are. his wife never really goes down there (think she just goes to the basic level).
    he is stubborn (no shit) and won't hire someone. belgians tend to do things as mom and pop operations (i think it's primarily due to taxes), so hiring wouldn't be profitable. then again, neither is closing for 3 months.
    i've heard of one of his younger friends having gone down there with him once, but i haven't heard of anyone else going down.
    i have heard that a (relatively) famous European brewer offered to buy the bar and Dirk was pissed off.
    in the end, Dirk is Dirk. i'm not a regular at Kulminator by any means. he's actually spent time talking to me once (july 2015 lolz) and is quite nice and has a great fucking laugh. hoping his knee surgery removes some of the misery and grumpiness that he has.
     
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  13. barrybeerdog

    barrybeerdog Pundit (941) Aug 17, 2012 South Dakota

    Wow, that was a very interesting read, especially the part about the cellar & no one being down there in years. Thank you very much for posting.

    I was there for a couple nights in 2013 & got the opportunity to experience all that is The Kulminator, (Dirk's grumpiness included). Everyone should be so lucky!
     
  14. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    also known as "don't take it personally, but it's likely personal." :slight_smile:
    first time we were there (in 2011), think he thought we were going to walk out without paying. didn't look trustworthy. he also got pissed off that i asked for a suggestion on what to drink. never, ever ask him for a suggestion. years later, Leen seems to recognize me when i visit. she's met my wife twice in 5 years and if i show her a picture of my wife, her face lights up. Typical, endearing belgians.

    here's a good article on Kulminator, including some pics of the cellar. it mentions 3 levels. https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/672/

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    you can see why a bum knee would make this job impossible. i tweaked my knee at work and could barely walk my stairs at home.
     
  15. euromannn

    euromannn Aspirant (224) Apr 15, 2013 Washington

    At Kulminator now

    Drank
    Bush Noel vintage 2013 draft dark brown very tasty

    Buffalo Grand CRU 9%

    Quadruple LatrPpe

    Kasteel Rouge - mix of Kasteel donker cherry


    If anyone around I'm here till August 26
     
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  16. ManforallSaisons

    ManforallSaisons Pooh-Bah (1,554) Mar 20, 2008 Belgium
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    This is really sad because he's made a great franchise and should be resting on his laurels, as well as his backside, dispatching retrained child miners or some such (those lovable scamps) into the depths for retrieval. It's a problem that other legendary places have worked through (or failed to). I heard once that the classic pub Sint Pietershof was like that -- an owner handed off a huge, disorganized cellar, and the next operator never totally got a handle on the inventory. Nothing that we, the drinking public, can do?
     
  17. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    even if Dirk wanted to sell the business, how can one properly assess the value of his inventory. that would take weeks and, even then, the number/value would be arbitrary
     
  18. BimmerRules

    BimmerRules Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2016 New Jersey

    to add my 2 American cents: What a gem of a bar!

    I am so glad I went there. Highly recommend it.

    Kris @ De Dolle reminded me about Dirk's accident; and given atomeyes background on Dirk - and Dirk's wife opinions that he was in a sour mood :slight_smile: - I decided to stay put and not bother him even though he was sitting two tables across.

    His wife was a delightful individual and very nice.

    Wish I was young enough to drink a lot but with age catching up, I just couldn't. Plus, I didn't do my research properly and promptly got confused reading the various types of beers they had in stock.

    Had three and was content. :slight_smile: My girlfriend didn't believe me when I told her that the place had so much in inventory.

    Just didn't want to leave this cozy place and I was bewitched by the way they had set it up.

    Here's wishing that Dirk recovers soon!
     
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  19. mathieu87

    mathieu87 Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2011 Belgium

    Any updates on the Kulminator opening up again soon?
     
  20. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Grand Pooh-Bah (3,771) Sep 11, 2002 Massachusetts
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    They are still open as far as I know. At least until sometime in November.
     
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