Lactose

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  1. LittleBigDreams

    LittleBigDreams Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2015

    Doing a firkin this week and I was thinking of adding some lactose along with my sugar. Has anyone done this before? If, so how much would/did you use?

    Thanks
     
  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    You'll want advice from the folks in the Homebrewing forum.
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I have used lactose in lots of beers, but never at kegging time. What's your goal behind adding the lactose? And what kind of beer is this?
     
  4. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    I like to wait until kegging for lactose, that way I can add only what is needed to boost the sweetness of the fermented beer to the desired level.
     
  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I don't think you are the only one to say this. In the bag it looks like DME or PB2. Have you ever had an issue with it dissolving? Just rack on top of it, or add it to the of the keg?
     
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I've only use it once, 1 lb added to the boil in a 5 gallon chocolate stout. For me, it was the right amount. I was concerned, because commercial milk stouts always come across to me as too sweet. I'm not 100% sure it's the lactose, because I know lactose is not all that sweet, but there is something that seems different about the sweetness I get in the commercial beers (Left Hand is the one that stands out the most in my mind). Ultimately, it's a personal decision, so it is hard to recommend an amount.
     
  7. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I would use 3/4 lb in 5 gallons, or no more than 1 lb for maximum sweetness that won't be overly chewy. More than that might be too much.
     
  8. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Like any other sugar added to fermented beer, I'd boil it in a cup or two of water before adding.
     
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  9. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    It depends on what your goals are!

    What sort of beer is it, etc?
     
  10. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Hey quick question I'm sure it's right just need someone to verify...

    Lactose monohydrate. That's what we should be using ?
     
  11. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Sounds like you are trying to use some lactose for carbonating a commercial beer. I think.
    That won't work. If that is your goal then the answer is zero ounces lactose, because it only adds sweetness. Adding lactose is probably something the brewer would have done, not the cellar man.

    You will end up with flat sweet beer.
    Cheers.
     
  12. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    You should be using something called lactose, lactose sugar or milk sugar purchased from a homebrew store.
     
  13. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I work somewhere where I can get this stuff dirt cheap (free). Wiki says its the same but you know how reliable that site is!
     
  14. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

  15. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    The only difference between the different types is the crystal structure, and maybe slightly the density (weight) but that should be a fairly minor effect. All of it will dissolve fully in beer in the same manner to do what you want it to do.
     
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Monohydrate means there is one molecule of water per molecule of lactose. I really don't know what form Lhbs lactose is. Wouldn't surprise me if it were monohydrate.
     
  17. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    good sir,
    i forget why, but i've been told to boil the water first, remove from heat and then add the sugar. not sure if it was strictly to prevent the above-boiling temps you get when heating sugar water. any thoughts?
     
  18. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    No good reason that I'm aware of. Maybe just to avoid the risk of burning the sugar if you don't stir before it dissolves?
     
  19. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    +1. It really doesn't matter that much.
     
  20. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Ask your employer if the product you intend to steal is food grade.
     
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