Lag time with u.s 05

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  1. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    has anyone experienced a lag time of 10 hours plus using safale 05? I brewed a blonde 1.056 OG yesterday and pitched yeast at 70 degrees and aerated well. I added yeast nutrient to the boil for the first time and have never had this yeast not kick start fairly quick.
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    This lag time would not concern me. 10 hours seems fairly responsive, if you ask me.
     
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  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I agree with @pweis909; nothing wrong with a 10 hour lag time.

    Cheers!
     
  5. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Agree, not to worry at 10 hr. If it bothers you, consider making a yeast starter next time. I don't care about the controversy, when needed or not, I believe making a starter is ALWAYS good a pratice!
     
  6. Theheroguy

    Theheroguy Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2012 Maryland

    It isn't. There is no reason to do a starter with 200 million cell dry yeast packets and a moderate OG and wort volume. However small, you increase the risk of infection with basically nothing gained. Throwing away the money to create a starter for the chance to infect your beer.
     
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  7. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    @Theheroguy I disagree, it's a statement of oppion. With a yeast starter, you have better control of the viable cell count, not just a packaging projection with an established loss due to age. Greater repeatability. Reduced lag, which reduces chance of infection by making a combative environment for any thing that may jump in. Last, reduced strain on yeast reduces off flavors and better clean up. Yes dry has a big listed cell count and you can get the same benefits with pitching pack as is. But you're always guessing your viability.
     
  8. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I'm approaching the 24 hr mark with no signs of good fermentation. Hopefully it'll pick up soon. It's sitting at 66 degrees plus or minus 1.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Just out of curiosity, did you rehydrate your packet of US-05?

    Cheers!
     
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  10. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    No I did not. I've never rehydrated since I hear and have read 50/50 that it's not necessary.
     
  11. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Rehydrated s05 pitched in an oxygenated wort takes 18-24 hours to start bubbling for me.

    If you don't rehydrate, as much as 50% of your yeast die shortly after they hit the wort. It still makes beer, though.
     
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  12. Travisurfin247

    Travisurfin247 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2010 South Carolina

    $3 to $4 for a second pack of dry yeast is a better option than a starter for dry yeast. Not worth my time to make a starter for dry yeast.
     
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  13. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Is it a bad idea to re-aerate the wort if I decide to pitch more yeast tomorrow? Depending on how it's doing tomorrow morning.
     
  14. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Aeration is less important or even unnecessary with dry yeast and low-medium gravity worts.
     
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  15. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    As a long as fermentation has not started ... it's OK to re-aerate; however, dollars-to-donuts by tomorrow AM ... you'll see signs of life. Brew_Betty is right - US05 takes its good ol' time.
     
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  16. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    It just seems weird to me because I've used this strain numerous time before and never had this much lag time. I'm not concerned much really since I know this is a good yeast. The previous times that I've pitched this yeast was always 77 or below.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe next time you will rehydrate US-05?

    I have always rehydrated US-05 and every time I have had signs of fermentation in less than 24 hours.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I said above that I thought 10 hours was pretty speedy. I have had many lags > 24 hours. At the 36 hours mark, I advise you to worry :wink:

    That was sort of tongue in cheek, but it is my experience. Go to sleep, wake up, check the fermenter. If nothing has started by 48 hrs, start thinking about getting another pack to pitch. AND REHYDRATE!
     
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  19. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Bad idea.
     
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  20. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I'm curious about what makes dry yeast different in terms of oxygen requirements
     
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