Lager question

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  1. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    My lager chamber doubles as a temp controlled fermentation chamber for my ales. Is it ok to remove a lager (that has been sitting at 35F a few weeks) and let it warm to basement temps (60F) for about a week to free up space in fermentation chamber? Then I would resume lagering. I haven't found much info on this. Will the temperature swing have any effect on a lager?
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Let me play devil's advocate...your lager will suffer more than your fermenting beer would if you let the lager be and fermented the beer using a ghetto cooler, imho. But to answer your question, yes the temp swing will affect your lager...but not much. Cheers
     
  3. plaztikjezuz

    plaztikjezuz Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2004 Michigan

    I on the other hand do not think it will affect your lager or much other than resetting the time frame. Lager brewers put there bottles on the shelf warm all day, still good beer.

    Starting your lager warm and waiting until fermentation started to chill would have more effect on the flavor.
     
  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I have lagered in secondary, bottled and bottle conditioned a few weeks, and then finished lagering in the bottle. Works fine.
     
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  5. MyThoughtsExactly

    MyThoughtsExactly Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2015 Virginia

    I did a lager recently where I upped the temperature so I could ferment another lager (35 F to 50 F). I can't say whether that was the cause, but the lager had a mild soapy, plastic taste and aroma.

    Take it for what it is, but now I don't fool with changing lager temperatures.
     
  6. plaztikjezuz

    plaztikjezuz Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2004 Michigan

    That flavor was not caused by the temp change otherwise BMC would taste like this.

    Did you have it sitting on a big yeast cake? I generally do not believe in homebrewers having yeast autolysis issues because of low pitching rates. But those flavors/aromas do point that way.
     
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  7. MyThoughtsExactly

    MyThoughtsExactly Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2015 Virginia

    This taste change happened sometime after transferring to secondary, lagering, and carbing. I doubt it was yeast autolysis since there were few yeast in suspension after transfer.

    It seems more likely that it was either a O2 effect or maybe some minor infection. That said, I can't rule the temperature change out as a variable.
     
  8. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Every Lager I make goes from my lagering temperature of 32 degrees to basement temperature of 65 degrees. If there is an off flavor from this I am not aware. I once left beer in a cooler from the end of October to the end of April. I paused for a second and thought... No way am I dumping six beers without trying them. They were not prime but after chilling they were very drinkable.
     
  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Put me in the camp that doesn't think this will be a problem. You have already lagered a few weeks. The flavor profile should be set from fermentation. This temporary swing in temperature wouldn't effect an ale that was fully fermented, so I don't think it would for a lager either.

    Think about your diacetyl rest, you are raising the temperature during the tail end of fermentation. This has its own reasons, but the effects are not negative. For what it's worth, I often let the diacetyl rest go for a week. Still no problems.
     
  10. plaztikjezuz

    plaztikjezuz Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2004 Michigan

    Did the beer darken any? Darkening is a tell tale sign of oxidation. But soapy/plastic are not oxidation aromas.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Wouldn't sweat it
     
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