Lagunitas Contents Under Fresher

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  1. hoppytobehere

    hoppytobehere Champion (840) Aug 10, 2012 District of Columbia

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    It seems everyone's beloved seasonal Born Yesterday has been replaced by this in 4 packs. Anyone try it yet?
     
  2. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,654) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I believe it was fresh when bottled, show me the date.
     
  3. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Poo-Bah (3,054) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Mosaic, Citra and Simcoe...they lost me at Sabro. Def not a fan.

    That being said, who am I kidding? I'd still try it! :wink::stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  4. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Devotee (400) Aug 24, 2020 California

    Did you already read the BA reviews? They are summarized here:
    Style:
    IPA - American
    ABV:
    7.7%
    Score:

    Needs more ratings
    Avg:
    3.9
    | pDev: 10.51%
    Reviews:
    6
    Ratings:
    8
     
  5. bayareahustla

    bayareahustla Initiate (173) Jul 13, 2012 California
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    i enjoyed it, classic Lagunitas sweetness. super hoppy and light bitterness.
     
  6. jkblr

    jkblr Poo-Bah (3,038) Nov 22, 2014 Indiana
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    It's a different profile than the early Born Yesterday's and not for the better in my opinion. The value is also not there as the 4 pack cost is the same as the 6 pack was last year.
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    I just posted a review on NBW.
     
  7. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,906) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I broadly agree with @jkblr. It's not born yesterday and it doesn't have the same value that born yesterday did.

    that said, if you like Lagunitas ipas and you like modern tropical hop flavors then I think you'll enjoy this one. It's the best expression of tropical juicy hop flavors that I've seen in broadly distribution beer.

    And it's a pretty heavy hitter at 7.7%
     
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  8. waltari

    waltari Initiate (75) Jan 28, 2016 Georgia

    I am (was?) the biggest Lagunitas fanboy but I am about to be done with them, besides Willetized & Waldo. Assuming. They don't fuck these 2 up.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,160) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  10. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Poo-Bah (2,332) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I'm going to give this a try but I am almost indescribably upset that they are not releasing Born Yesterday this year. BY is one of my favorite hoppy beers of all time and I look forward to it all year. If they don't bring it back I will never forgive Lagunitas.
     
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  11. o29

    o29 Disciple (300) Sep 29, 2020 Texas
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    I picked up a 4 pack this weekend and agree with the general sentiment here so far -- while good, it's no Born Yesterday, and that combined with the move to a 4 pack format makes this a less appealing purchase to me.

    I also miss Lagunitas Sucks and Brown Shugga. I know Sucks had a limited re-release last year, but it's still a step in the wrong direction from year-round and so far no Brown Shugga in sight.
     
  12. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Poo-Bah (2,332) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Heineken buyout notwithstanding, they're going the way of Stone. Discontinuing all of their most beloved beers and alienating their long time fans. Shooting themselves in the foot.
     
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  13. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (4,133) Oct 14, 2009 California
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    Face it, Born Yesterday was too good to be true. That it lasted as long as it did is something closer to a miracle.
     
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  14. DavetotheB

    DavetotheB Savant (939) Sep 30, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Interestingly, it's the same hop bill as last year's Born Yesterday so I'm wondering how much different it's going to be.

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    And not a fan of the increased price, decreased volume but I'll be down for a 4 pack when it shows up here.

    Enjoy!
     
  15. jageraholic

    jageraholic Disciple (339) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Wet hop or fresh hop? From the packaging this looks like first use of the latest hop crop like SN Celebration.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,160) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Wet-hopped according to their website:

    "Fresh Hops
    There really is no better way to describe this than the flavor of the smell of Yakima Valley in the fall. Since the hops haven’t been dried you get the full spectrum of flavors right in your face."

    https://lagunitas.com/beer/contents-under-fresher/

    The terminology of "Fresh Hop" as opposed to "Wet Hopped" does introduce ambiguity; I recently discussed that topic in another thread.

    Cheers!
     
  17. jageraholic

    jageraholic Disciple (339) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Thanks!
     
  18. keithmurray

    keithmurray Meyvn (1,458) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut

    I have not seen their Imperial Stout in ages. That was great value @ $5/bomber
     
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  19. JBogan

    JBogan Champion (883) Jul 15, 2007 California
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    Kind of like when High West-ified (now Willitized) Stout came out in 12oz 6 Packs for $11.99. Now, in my opinion anyway, the beer is not as good as it was when it was High West-ified and you're only getting 4 bottles instead of 6. Still, it's a good beer and a very good deal for what it is, but not like that glorious first year or two.
     
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  20. medb

    medb Initiate (67) Aug 27, 2013 California

    Yeah, they really scaled back on the original line up. No more Hop Stoopid! I'd check in on their website occasionally to see what other kinds of beers they were serving that were not widely available. Over the last four months or so, it looks like they are even scaling back what they serve at the brewery.
     
  21. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Poo-Bah (3,054) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    It really sucks to see all of these breweries, that were once popular to pique enough interest to be bought out, go through changes that alienate (which to me is the perfect word, thanks @HorseheadsHophead ) the consumers that helped make them popular.
    From scaling back on their most beloved beers, to poor distribution choices, to just trying to market to too many people.

    Hell, sometimes it isn't even a buyout that triggers these changes...everything must change with time.

    Sorry, this kind of got off topic of the orginal post.
     
  22. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,160) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What is the beer scene in your area?

    I am fortunate that in the Philly area we have had several high quality craft breweries for multiple decades and over the past few years there has been an explosion of new small, local craft breweries producing very tasty beer. The majority of my beer budget goes to these local breweries. I am strongly motivated since these beers are fresh(er) but they are also 'top shelf' beers so no drop-off there.

    Maybe you can do the same?

    Cheers!

    P.S. I know from visiting friends last year that there are a lot of good small, local breweries in the St. Pete/Tampa area.
     
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  23. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,317) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, it was also untrue. :wink: If one accepts that a beer is "born" on the day it was packaged (:rolling_eyes: terminology that Anheuser-Busch created but recently abandoned for "Best by" dating) how many people ever bought the bottled product the following day?
     
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  24. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (697) Mar 28, 2009 California

    Shot! I didn’t realize that. Been awhile since I bought that beer but I did buy it in occasion. Seems like they bumped the marketing and presence of Maximus and took away hop stoopid. They did enough to the occasional customer like me that I didn’t realize that. I always have preferred hop stoopid over Maximus. Hoppy and less sweet.
     
  25. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Initiate (146) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    They discontinued it in bombers but can still buy at taproom/ brewery off tap.

    Im excited about Unrefined Shugga on Nov1
     
  26. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (697) Mar 28, 2009 California

    I just cracked my bottle. It’s good but no born. Also, at $11.99 a 4 pk of 12oz bottles not a good deal. So many good local 4 pk 16 oz cans available for about that price. Lastly, mine is bottled 9/29. Not even that fresh. Lame!
     
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  27. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,906) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    To me it tastes like they tried (at succeeded, imo) at shifting the flavor profile to the juicy end of the spectrum.

    I guess that might seem like a good move to the marketing folks but I think it fails to deliver what the niche buyer that seeks out wet hop ipas want. I find it enjoyable but it doesn't have the bright, grassy/herbal pop that sets wet hop beers apart to my palate
     
  28. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (697) Mar 28, 2009 California

    that’s a great assessment. And the problem with that shift is it becomes just like all the other juicy ipas.

    on a side note one thing I like about fremonts field to ferment is has a completely unique hop flavor profile. Grassy and tea like to me. What I love about wet hops and what makes them unique is they tend to give a different flavor profile.

    lastly, my buddy grows just enough hops for one wet hopped 10 gallon keg. It’s always so good and unique. The only problem is it can’t be replicated. But that’s also part of what makes it so cool.
     
  29. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Poo-Bah (3,054) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    There are plenty of breweries in my area right now, some are average and some are cranking out some real quality beers.
    I miss living in PA and having access to a lot of variety at the store. Plus I miss all my PA faves! Tröegs, Free Will, Saucony Creek, Victory and Weyerbacher(which I was able to find before in my area, but as of late, not so much).
    I'm always more than willing to give my cash to a local business!
     
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  30. smutty33

    smutty33 Crusader (782) Jun 12, 2009 Connecticut
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    Count me in the group of not a fan of Sabro, more importantly not a fan of less beer in a 4pk. I’ll try a single bottle. Used to be good for at least 3 6pks of Born Yesterday. Name change so they can get it to you when they want?
     
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  31. keithmurray

    keithmurray Meyvn (1,458) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut

    Wayment. WHAT!? I'm guessing this is some.sort of variant of Brown Sugga!? If so, I'm intrigued!
     
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  32. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (697) Mar 28, 2009 California

    per lagunitas website:

    UNREFINED SHUGGA'
    STRONG ALE

    Originally, a curious mistake that resulted in an all-new-beer-style we liked to call…Irresponsible. We’ve upgraded this Sweet Release with the addition of Whole Cane Sugar for a delightfully unrefined experience.

    doesn’t really tell us much. I guess my assumption is they are using unrefined brown sugar vs regular brown sugar????
     
  33. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (39) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    I concur. Don't understand the fascination with Sabro.
     
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  34. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Poo-Bah (2,332) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    They discontinued it--along with Cappuccino Stout and Pils. Really bums me out.
     
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  35. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Initiate (146) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Yea i shat my pants too

    I drank these by the pack.

    I miss Lagunitas Red .

    Lagunitas is a brewery i don't seek out anymore unless its Willetized ( ill buy it by the case)
    Gnarlywine . Wtf. Kronik. Dogtown. Undercover shutdown. Imperial stout. Capo impy. I miss so much.

    Waldos i can handle one 12oz of and even then its syrup.
    I hope Unrefined Shugga is still as god
     
  36. keithmurray

    keithmurray Meyvn (1,458) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut

    I was also a big fan of Hairy Eyeball.
     
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  37. Giantspace

    Giantspace Champion (893) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    The original run of Hi West bombers was by far the best of the Hi West/Willet beers. I paid $96 a case and that was an incredible deal, still would be based on what was in the bottle.

    Enjoy
     
  38. o29

    o29 Disciple (300) Sep 29, 2020 Texas
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    Sounds interesting and as former Brown Shugga fan I'll definitely try it.

    But I'm also fairly certain this will be the next Lagunitas beer to move to a 4 pack format, and I kind of feel like these subtle "changes" to Born Yesterday and Brown Shugga are really more of excuses to give consumers 2 fewer beers. People are less likely to notice if it's a new beer name! Which is really unfortunate because historically to me one of the most appealing things about some of Lagunitas's offerings was their competitive price point.
     
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  39. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Initiate (146) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Tell me about it
    I drove to Petaluma for these

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  40. Lukass

    Lukass Meyvn (1,081) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio

    Agreed. I think I found a 6-pack of their high west-ified for something insane like $12.99 about 4 years ago. No one puts out barrel aged beers at that price anymore