Lambic with turbid mash- Sparge? Any input is welcome.

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  1. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    Planning on doing a 10 gallon lambic with a turbid mash. I know beersmith does not function to figure out the amount a mash and sparge water needed? anyone have an easy place to calculate? Im going to brew with 19lbs of grain plus 1lb of rice hulls since Im using 8lbs flaked wheat. Anyone have any hints or tips for this brew project? Im using Mad fermentationist's site for the plan/basis so far.
     
  2. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

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  3. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    I read this too. I did part one yesterday and will do the boil this eve. From start to finish it took about 6hrs total with all the mash changes, rests and sparging. I can say I was exhausted after just this part. I will post my notes etc when I do. I used a recipe from Wild Brews using Cantillon's lambic recipe and had to hand figure out the water amounts of water because its all in percentages in the book.
     
  4. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    Lambic
    10 gallon recipe brewed 6/26-6/27/13
    Recipe:
    15# Weyermann Pilsner Malt
    8# Flaked Wheat
    1# Rice Hulls
    Total-- 23lbs (Rice Hulls do not count towards grain total- only to prevent stuck mashes).
    Yeast- Lambic blend along with dregs from Allagash Coolship Red+ FV13, Petrus- Barrel Aged Pale Ale and Oud Bruin, Bruery/Cigar City Marron Acidifie (Flanders Oud Bruin)
    Total H2O used 18 gal
    OG preboil- 1.045
    OG-
    Turbid mashed according to Cantillon's brew schedule (Wild Brews by Jeff Sparrow pg 141)
    Used 2 Qts per lb of grain = 46 Qts (11.5 gal)
    1. Dough in for 113 degrees with 9.2 Qts(2.5 Gal). Water 156 degrees- hit 111 degrees
    2. Add 20% mash water (2.5Gal) @212 to achieve 126 (hit 134) rest 15min
    3. Remove 1/3 water(1.75 Gal/7Qts) heat this to 190 and hold(sat at 196)
    4. Add 1.75gal(7Qts) @212 to raise to 149 (hit 147) rest 45 min
    5. Remove 50% liq (2.5 gal or 10Qts) add to kettle heat and hold 190
    6. Add 1.75 Qts(7Qts) @212 to raise temp to 162 (hit 167) rest 30 min
    7. Transfer most of Liquor (2.25 gal or 9Qts) to primary kettle and heat
    8. Add kettle back to mash which raises to 172 (hit after stirring it in) rest 20min
    9. Vorlauf
    10. Sparge with 190degree water until gravity less than 2 P or 1.008 (sparged with rest of my water 6.5Gal)
    11. Ended with 13.5 Gal Wort (all I could fit in my kettle without a boil over
    More to follow going to split it into 4 gal on cherries, 4 gal on raspberries and 2 gal will be saved for a gueze.
     
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  5. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    Boil-3hrs hops added at start of boil
    8oz of aged Williamette hops- whole leaf from 2008
     
  6. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Nice work! the only thing is would say you could have shortened that 162 (167) rest to like 10 mins and the 172 rest to 2 mins. Best of luck with the next phase
     
  7. JulianB

    JulianB Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2012 South Carolina

    Awesome thread, I'm planning to try my first lambic in a month or two and this is great information. Thinking of splitting a 10 gallon batch into a kriek and a straight lambic.
     
  8. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I have had one straight lambic and one gueze, and one kriek (at least that I can recall), and a couple of homebrewed versions of each. All were quite amazing. I will mark this thread for future use as well.
     
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  9. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    I took pics throughout and will be posting them at some point too.
     
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