Latest Pipeworks Releases and Updates

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Lansman, May 29, 2012.

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  1. CLCardinal84

    CLCardinal84 Jan 29, 2012 Illinois
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    Disclaimer: everything I've had by Pipeworks to date has been outstanding and I cannot wait for the next batch of Something Hoppy bc it's one of the best damn IPA's I've had since Zombie Dust came out. However, I did have a Blue Lady tonight that I had to drain pour. The smell was very heavy of rank butter and cheese and I couldn't stomach it. Now, this doesn't take anything away from them bc they kick tons of ass but I just wanted them to know the "butter" was real.
     
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  2. yepbye2

    yepbye2 Feb 23, 2011 Illinois
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    From talking with others, my experience and reading a bit here I have a feeling that there were a lot of drain pours for the Blue Lady. Surprising to hear that some bottles didn't have an odor. Mine was a definite strong stinky cheese. Couldn't get by that when trying to drink it. But one bad one out of many outstanding beers that Pipework's has put out there is fine by me. I am not upset at all. Just curious to the different bottle reviews. It is interesting to me.
     
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  3. ravot

    ravot Mar 20, 2012 Illinois
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    bought a second blue lady. what a slut.
     
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  4. Grohnke

    Grohnke Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    blue lady was solid. Granted there was some clear, and quite heavy cheese on the nose; if you were able to allow yourself to get around that, the beer was quite good. Delicate, full on fruit, fantastic lactic sourness, balanced sweetness/tartness, refreshing, crisp, etc. One 750 wasnt quite enough for me. Oh and such a kick ass appearance. I didnt get any buttery notes, as some people were mentioning in this beer, however, I do find it worth mentioning that i did get the butter-like notes in the nose in perennials peach BW, just earlier this week. Bring on the peach, pipeworks
     
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  5. dvelcich

    dvelcich Feb 6, 2008 Illinois

    I was able to enjoy it, but it was because I like the brewery more than I liked the beer. These guys are great, but the beer was sub-par. They know it, and they plan to learn from it, which (full circle) is why I like them.
     
  6. burica2020

    burica2020 Nov 17, 2009 Illinois

    Too lazy and I don't think I'm a pro so I don't do reviews but I wanna weigh in on the blue lady cheese nose. As I just cracked one at first I noticed a cheese smell, possibly based off of what I've read about it on BA. I gave it to my wife and she says "oh that smells like farm fresh blueberries.". I give it a second whiff and she is exactly right..... Go sniff good farmers market blueberries and it will smell just like the nose. This is a great beer, hipster pitchfork rating 8.1/10.
     
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  7. burica2020

    burica2020 Nov 17, 2009 Illinois

    And I mean blueberries and other berries arent also the best smelling fruits, despite the awesome tastes.
     
  8. burica2020

    burica2020 Nov 17, 2009 Illinois

    And I mean an up close smell of the actual fruit as a distance smell is usually pretty good. It's there like sOme sort of botanist that can explain the up close funk of blueberries or am I balls to the wall crazy on this one?
     
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  9. Grohnke

    Grohnke Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    burica, youre coming off as a quasi neurotic woody allen character in your analysis of this beer. That being said, you could be on to something
     
  10. aefbjo

    aefbjo Jun 8, 2005 Bahamas

    I had my first Ninja vs. Unicorn last night, shared with a couple friends. What an amazing beer! One of the most singular experiences I've had with hops that I can recall.
     
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  11. HugePrnceFan1999

    HugePrnceFan1999 Nov 30, 2011 Indiana

    Good word, I had to look that up.
     
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  12. FritterFlip

    FritterFlip Mar 9, 2010 Illinois

    If any one loves Blue lady or missed out on getting one I currently have two available. Just can't get past the smell even though the taste is alright. I'd swap for other pipeworks beers but would prefer at her majesties pleasure. I really liked that one. IP in or around Chicago.
     
  13. crossovert

    crossovert Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    it is still on the shelves...
     
  14. FritterFlip

    FritterFlip Mar 9, 2010 Illinois

    Ahhh, gotcha. Hadn't really checked around.
     
  15. Pipeworks

    Pipeworks May 28, 2009 Illinois

    Okay...

    so, unfortunately what we thought was just a minor flaw has, with warm conditioning, turned into a chronic issue with our Blue Lady bottles. This off flavor was absolutely not present when we were bottling, or else we would not have released the beer. However, we were aware that their was a slight issue with the souring that seemed to clear up with cold conditioning. We held the beer back for a few weeks and the beer tasted better with every day and we didn't think that this off flavor would manifest negatively with time. It seemed to disappear completely at bottling time and we had no idea it would turn into something much worse (cite lack of experience in this realm for that).

    So, we, a tiny small itty bitty freshman brewery, don't have a recall/refund procedure in place (yes being small would seem to make that easier, but to do that the customer would have to get their money back from the retailer, and then we would have to get our money back from the retailer... (and to do it Boulevard style, 'direct refund,' isn't an option for us at this point.)

    What we can do is offer up a 20oz laser logo etched tulip tasting glass for anyone who bought a Blue Lady (one glass per bottle) who feels like they got a raw deal. If you can provide a receipt or some proof of your purchase that's great; if not, no big deal. We're going to believe that more people are going to be honest about this than that aren't. There were only 900 bottles produced and we're getting 900 glasses for those that speak up. A receipt, rating, untapped check-in are of course helpful, but if you take the time to express your discontent with Blue Lady, then we'll take the time to make it up to you.

    I'll post an e-mail address to send your claim to shortly.

    -humble Pipeworks
     
  16. fritts211

    fritts211 Feb 19, 2011 Tennessee
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    That's incredible of you guys. Had a Blue Lady, picked up from Printer's Row Wine Shop on South Dearborn. No receipt, but would be happy to post a review off of my memory. There was a strong cheese/buttery flavor in the upfront taste and on the nose, with the blueberry finishing sour on the back end (delightful backing, just the upfront forced me to drainpour). Looking forward to keeping in contact with you guys. Cheers!
     
  17. ravot

    ravot Mar 20, 2012 Illinois
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    When you say raw deal do you mean badass deal? I'll take 2 then. Cuz my deals were raw.
     
  18. Pipeworks

    Pipeworks May 28, 2009 Illinois

    edit* we would refund the retailer, not get our money back from them
     
  19. pmoney

    pmoney Apr 15, 2011 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    I think it is very respectable of you guys to make this offer. But it's also totally understandable that there will be bumps along the road as you grow and gain experience (especially with difficult styles). I bought two bottles and had the first one this past weekend with a buddy. There was definitely a funky bleu cheese aroma that was off-putting, but if I didn't inhale as I took a sip, it didn't ruin the great taste. My point is, even though I recognize there were quality issues, I won't be asking for a refund. I'm sure next time around will be better, and I'm looking forward to getting a bottle! Again, I commend what you guys are doing! Cheers to a top-notch couple of guys and a great brewery!
     
  20. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    I concur. There is definitely a off-putting aroma but it still has a very nice flavor. Still have a bottle in the fridge. Not sure if the aroma will get better or worse, but whatever.
     
  21. eyeenjoybeer

    eyeenjoybeer Feb 18, 2011 Seychelles

    Props to being honest and standing by your customers. I have had two bottles and loved them both. I have two more and plan to enjoy them. Keep up the good work!
     
  22. Redpac

    Redpac Aug 27, 2009 Illinois
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    FwB here,

    I picked mine up the first day at Binny's and put it in the fridge right away. Are you saying with it being in the fridge the entire time it should be fine?
     
  23. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    No, you will most likely still get the off aromas. But it still is a very tasty beer. Open one and see!

    Cheers
     
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  24. apocalypsezombie

    apocalypsezombie May 12, 2012

    That's what I thought also. Just don't smell it. I thought it was pretty good!
     
  25. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    I would love a glass, can I buy one? I bought two Blue Ladies but I would rather have Pipeworks spend my money on new beers/equipment than glassware, sh*t happens.
     
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  26. apocalypsezombie

    apocalypsezombie May 12, 2012

    I second what Bay01 said. I bought 3 blue ladies, and I'm going to drink them happily. Can I purchase a glass?
     
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  27. mbierz

    mbierz Dec 6, 2008 Illinois
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    One bottle, no receipt.
     
  28. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Aug 8, 2010 Illinois

    I bought a bottle, enjoyed it just fine (even posted about it in this thread), but would love to get one of those glasses, even if it meant paying for it.
     
  29. dsal89

    dsal89 Jul 6, 2008 Indiana

    Speaking of glassware. Are those pipeworks snifters still available at different places? Ill be in the city on Saturday and would love to grab one
     
  30. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    Thayer are supposed to go out to FwB anytime now, but you might be able to grab one if you stop by the brewery?
     
  31. dsal89

    dsal89 Jul 6, 2008 Indiana

    I didnt know you could actually stop at the brewery? I thought it was just production and you couldnt actually visit
     
  32. Nachos4two

    Nachos4two Nov 26, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I had two "Blue Ladies" Several weeks apart and they both were the same "blue cheese" smell so much so that once opened the aroma was intense. As the beer warmed the aroma subdued both the taste and flavor was still overwhelming for sure! I am excited to try the next batch after the corrections are made as I feel this can be a great beer!!!
     
  33. crushedvol

    crushedvol Jan 29, 2008 Illinois

    Man, funkyaudio is gonna be rolling in pipeworks glasses.

    Definitely this.
     
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  34. AJDePaul

    AJDePaul Jun 29, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Yes this... put my money into an extra batch of NvU!!!!
     
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  35. Treebs

    Treebs Apr 18, 2011 Illinois

    I bought a bottle as well, but I'll definitely be paying for one of the new glasses. Hopefully it can be bundled with all the FWB stuff that we've got coming as well.
     
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  36. pmoney

    pmoney Apr 15, 2011 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Do we know if it's a different glass than the red balloon glass we're supposed to be getting with our FWB package?
     
  37. Nachos4two

    Nachos4two Nov 26, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I second that would rather pay for the two glasses I would have for the two bottles I bought
     
  38. Treebs

    Treebs Apr 18, 2011 Illinois

    Good call, I actually don't know if the original tulip is the same as the newly ordered glass. If it is I'd probably still buy another one and keep it in the reserves in case the one I have coming in the FWB bundle breaks due to some drunken mishap.
     
  39. Grohnke

    Grohnke Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    1) Awesome of Pipeworks to make that post, and offer some sort of refund
    2) Even better, are the fans of Pipeworks saying "hey man, shit happens, let me just buy a glass, and use the funds for future projects"

    Even though Chicago beer nerds have a horrible reputation for truck chasing and hoarding, gotta say that these responses shows some incredible loyalty and support to their local brewers.


    And btw, Blue Lady was great. So it had a little bit of cheese, lessons learned. (FD: Im a huge stinky cheese fan ;))
     
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  40. RC0032

    RC0032 Mar 10, 2009 Illinois
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    Its still sitting on the shelf at Binnys Grand. I will eat my losses of you just pull it from the shelf, keep your rep up.
     
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