Leaking Waxed Bottle Help

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by jeevo, Sep 10, 2022.

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  1. jeevo

    jeevo Pundit (976) Nov 1, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Received a bottle today where it appears a tiny bit of beer leaked out of the bottle. The glass bottle and wax is 100% in tact, but the bubble wrap has some “fresh” stout that was wet to the touch. It’s also odd that I cannot tell if there is any beer in the bottle at all. When I lightly shake the bottle, or turn it upside down it looks and sounds like it’s completely empty. Could this be due to the bottle being filled to the top? I’ve been trading for a decade and have never seen anything like this.
     
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  2. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    If an entire bottle was spilled out in a box, you should be able to tell.
     
  3. jeevo

    jeevo Pundit (976) Nov 1, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Is the slight leakage ok? I just can’t fathom how beer would spill out of the bottle when the wax and glass is completely unscathed.
     
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  4. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Time to drink it. If it did leak, it ain’t gonna get any better than it is now. And if it didn’t leak, you just had yourself a nice stout.
     
  5. jeevo

    jeevo Pundit (976) Nov 1, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Drink it as in today? Or would it still be alright next weekend when I was planning on opening it?
     
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  6. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    If a bottle showed up to my house that I expected was literally empty, I would open it right then and there. I don’t have patience for something like that. What’s the point of cellaring an empty bottle anyhow? And if it’s leaking, you’re losing carbonation by the minute anyways. Time to open it and enjoy what you can. Cheers.
     
  7. jeevo

    jeevo Pundit (976) Nov 1, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I’m not cellaring it long term. Wife is out with my son so she won’t be able to partake and I’m going out for beers with my friends here in an hour. Was going to open the Dimensions of Time set with my wife and friend next weekend and am just going to open this beer then. Crossing my fingers it tastes ok lol. I’ll report back.
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You should be able to tell if the bottle is full or empty by just picking it up and seeing how heavy it is. Compare it to other filled and empty bottles. (Considering that this was from a trade, you should take pictures of this as best you can.)
     
  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I should add that the second part is especially true considering that this was a wax sealed stout.
     
  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Not only that, but shining a flashlight through the bottle will show if it's full, empty or somewhere in between.
     
  11. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    A. Either something is wrong with the beer, or you're paranoid.
    B. You need to immediately open (and consume) said beer to verify. Time is of the essence.
    C. Quit your whining.
    D. Report back here the results.
     
  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Any moisture stains on the outer packaging? If you suspect the bottle is light, it probably is, but I'm surprised you can't see anything thru the glass to confirm. If you want to wait until next weekend, do it. Loss of carbonation in a special waxed stout is no big deal. If it's a social function and you're relying upon this beer o be he center of he party, have a Plan B.
     
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  13. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Not so sure he’s whining as he is asking for input which is a good part of what this site is used for. Cheers bud.
     
  14. jeevo

    jeevo Pundit (976) Nov 1, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    The beer in question is a stout from The Eighth State (Dazed). If you’ve ever had a beer from them, you’ll know that their glass is extremely thick and heavy. I’ve been a member on BA for a decade and have completed hundreds of trades and have never seen anything like this before. It’s impossible to tell if there is any liquid in the bottle, whether with a flashlight, by flipping it upside down, etc.

    It feels as if either the bottle is empty or that the liquid inside is completely frozen.
     
  15. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    The 375 size/style bottle they use is no heavier and or thicker than other breweries that use the same bottle.

    I find it hard to believe you can’t determine if there is anything left in the bottle, given all your trades and time on BA.

    I looked up the bottle online, take off the label that’s on it. Plenty of pics of this online with light on the bottle that you can see through it.

    Or the side of the bottle where the label doesn’t go all the way around?


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  16. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Open her up.
     
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  17. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    I’ve had bottles before that weren’t cleaned of any contents drips down the side from filling. They are sticky. When they heat up after transport, they even feel a little damp to the touch and stink of stale beer. Perhaps this is your situation.
     
  18. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona

    As a person with OCD (actual OCD) and a lot of anxiety wrapped up around germs and all related things, I’d probably toss it and then feel shame after washing my hands for about five minutes. Love the way my mind works:heavymetal:
    As others have said, crack it open, and be bolder than I. Cheers :beers:
     
  19. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Did you trade with a reputable trader or a new one?
     
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  20. jeevo

    jeevo Pundit (976) Nov 1, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    100% reputable trader. I have no doubts that the bottle is legit, I was more wondering about how it’s physically possible for a waxed bottle to leak as well as what if the bottle was mistakenly sent out from the brewery empty. Like I’ve said above, it feels like the bottle is either empty or as if the liquid inside is completely frozen. I’ve been in the game for about 12 years now and I’ve never seen anything like this. I mean, the bottle is most likely filled but if someone on the street gave me the bottle and told me they would give me $1000 if I could guess whether it was empty or not, I honestly wouldn’t be able to lean one way or the other.
     
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