Leftover Hallertau Mittlefrau

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  1. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    I have 3 oz of Hallertau Mittlefrau leftover. Ive also got 10 oz of Cascade. I have 12 lbs of German Munich, and a pack of US05. Im thinking just use the Hallertau Mittlerfrau for bittering and then the rest continuously add cascade from T-30 to flame out. Maybe save about 2 oz for dry hopping in the keg. Any thoughts? Ive read that the H.M. is really mostly used for aroma, but I want the Cascade to really shine while the H.M. hides in the background. Ive got to goto the homebrew shop tomorrow anyway, should I just forget about the H.M. and get more Cascade to make it a SMaSH beer? Im so indecisive lately. Help me out! I need some opinions!
     
  2. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Breathe deep ... and ... again.
    Once more. That's it ... easy ... yeah
    Sleep on it. OK?

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  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You might want to compute some IBUs there. Your plan would be pretty dang bitter. I'm guessing you won't need to buy more cascade.
     
  4. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    So ya think I should use the HM for bittering and then 8 oz ofl my cascade from 30 til flameout? 2 oz cascade dry hopped. I hope the HM and the Cascade go well together...
     
  5. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    How many gallons? 3 oz HM in 5 gallons plus 8 oz of cascade sounds absurd.
     
  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Bitter with something bland, hit it with the 3oz of HM in the last 15 mins, ferment with the US-05 low, keep cold a few weeks. Mok-toberfest in December. I wouldn't waste Noble hops.
     
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  7. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    Really? Yes, its a 5 gallon batch. I like bitter. Im just gonna go with 10 oz Cascade, 2 at 60 min, Then continuously
    add 6 oz until flameout. Then 2 oz dry hop i n the keg.
    Thanks to everyone.
    Cheers!

    P.S. This got me thinkin about doin a SMaSH with Munich and Hallertau. I might just do that for my next beer. Hmmmmmmmmmm
     
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Hallertau middle woman?
     
  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I would save the noble for another recipe and do a Munich/Cascade SMaSH. If you're hell-bent on using all of the Cascade, save 3oz for dry hop and hop burst with the rest for BU:GU of .8.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    No, I think you have too much hops for the grain bill. Or rather, I wouldn't use this much.

    Unless you have made a similar beer before and like it, I'll say it again...you might want to compute some IBUs before brewing this.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Missed that one. I wonder how often it has slipped by me.
     
  12. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Just throw an ounce of cascade as first wort hops then throw 8 Oz of cascade at 180F hop stand for 30 minutes.
     
  13. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    smash it with cascade. 10 oz cascade with 12 lbs Munich is going to make a helluva powerful beer tho. I'd bitter to about 30 IBUs then blast it with about 4 oz cascade at flameout and 2 oz dry hop. Virtually guaranteed to make a tasty beer.
     
  14. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    You want opinions, eh? Well, OK, here's one: brewing is pretty easy, but it's not so easy that you can just throw ingredients together based on the amounts you happen to have on hand and expect to get great results. The plan you outline above will, IMO, produce a terrible beer. You're looking at 100+ IBU for a 1.060-ish beer, so the BU/GU would be off the charts. Having that kind of bitterness in a single malt beer is not something most people are going to enjoy.

    Better to think this through, come up with a recipe that has a better chance for success. You don't have to use all of this stuff up now, you know.
     
  15. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    So, life happened and I still havent brewed this beer, but anyway, I was wrong! turns out I have 3 oz of Hallartau Mittlefrau and 6 oz of Cascade! Im thinking Bitter with 1.5 oz HM and then mix the other 1.5 in with 5 oz of Cascade and continously hop all of it during the last 15 min til flameout. Save 1 oz Cascade for dryhop. Sounds a bit better, eh?
     
  16. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I would still reserve that HM for it's own beer. Not sure it would come through too much behind all that Cascade. 5oz of Cascade could get you a decent Pale Ale.
     
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