My answer was not bullshit. My answer was simple economics. A trade would not happen if it was not mutually beneficial...so if a 4 pack of HT trades for a BA Dark Lord one must assume that both parties felt the trade was mutually beneficial and therefore a great trade. You seem to think that you know whats best for people in the world of beer trading. You hold your opinion in high regard and feel that you are able to determine value for other people better than they can for themselves. I tend to disagree and feel that leaving people to make decisions about what is best for them is the better approach.