Let's talk Pilsners

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  1. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    If Roger Protz wrote it, it's worth double checking.But lining wood with pitch has always been common in continental Europe.
    Worth a look;
    http://desdemoor.co.uk/pilsner-urquell-an-old-czech-fairy-tale/
     
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  2. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Bit funny, and you may not know this cultural phenomenon, but Elephant Ears are a staple food at U.S. carnivals, state and county fairs, and amusement parks… but I'm sure they're not the same food you're talking about. :grinning:

    (basically a flat doughnut)
     
  3. Pegli

    Pegli Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2006 Rhode Island

    The Tower/Coast Guard House would make a legendary brewpub.
     
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  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Michael Jackson also wrote of Pilsner Urquell's pitched wooden vessels:
    Snip from above:
    Many major changes (so-called "modernization":rolling_eyes:) to the brewery and the brewing process date from end of state ownership and subsequent privatization, and pre-date 1999's SAB's purchase of Pilsner Urquell.
    I always recall an interview with a PU brewmaster I read back in the '70s or '80s* which went something like (paraphrasing):

    "We study every new brewing technology for years before we reject it."

    * Back when their crowns was still lined with real cork with an aluminum foil disc when every other beer has switched to plastic lined caps.
     
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  5. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Yes, we have something like that too, I'd forgotten about it.A sort of round eclair thing.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The Beerhunter series had a scene in the cooperage at PU where they had heated a lagering barrel with steam, and had it so the bung was down and pitch was running out. If anyone doubts the use of pitch, they should see if they can find that on YouTube.
     
  7. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    There was a Swedish documentary aired last year about a guy travelling around the classic beer nations of Europe and in the episode on the Czech republic he sat in on a taste testing/quality control session by old PU brewmasters at the brewery. A bunch of old guys, pensioners basically, and they were supposed to check whether the beer tasted the way it did in the past. One of the old men is caught on tape saying that it tastes like water, while talking with the guy sitting next to him and he looks very displeased, but at the end of the meeting the guy who's in charge says something to the effect of "we all agree then that it tastes the same", he also says that any percieved differences in taste might be the result of the smaller glasses they are using for the tasting compared to what they are used to in the pub.

    I thought it was pretty interesting, even if it was an off-hand comment by one old, possibly grumpy guy :stuck_out_tongue:.
     
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  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    They fermented with 5 yeast strains, separately, then blended. They then went to 2 strains, and now are said to only use the "D" strain, correction, it is the "H" strain. Anyone care to say that will not have an impact on the beer's complexity?
     
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  9. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on someone who has never been there -- either pre- or post-1994/99 -- as the person most likely to take issue with that fact. :wink:
     
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  10. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    Whatever gave you that bizarre idea ? :astonished:
     
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  11. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    I get your point and the article but since other, regional beers I've also commonly drank since those times have not changed their taste I would beg to differ. :slight_smile:
     
  12. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    I love that attitude :slight_smile: I just wish they had stayed with it :slight_smile:
     
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  13. bcp5296d

    bcp5296d Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 North Carolina

    Cigar City Brewing Patio Pils is my favorite
     
  14. grantcty

    grantcty Savant (1,016) Feb 17, 2008 Minnesota
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    In addition to the reduction of strains, I would also include open vs. closed fermentation vessels and their shape would as having an effect on taste/complexity.
     
  15. kguard

    kguard Pundit (820) Feb 19, 2013 Iowa

    Schell's Fresh Hop with Mosaic hops.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Wow! A fresh hopped Pilsner using Mosaic hops; that sounds awesome!

    Below is a description:

    “This year’s Fresh Hop beer will be a pilsner that is single hopped with the new and exciting Mosaic hop variety. This hop gives off an abundant mix of flavors and aromas to the beer, hence the name Mosaic. Its characteristics are found to be floral, tropical, fruity, earthy and sweet. It can contribute notes of blueberry, mango, lemon, lime, other citrus, pine, fruit punch, herbs, spice, stone fruit, mint, bubblegum and black pepper.”

    I wish that Schell’s was distributed in my area. I would have loved to have tried that beer!

    Cheers to Schell’s Brewery!
     
  17. AnchorBaby

    AnchorBaby Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2010 California

    Wow. What a mature, thoughtful way to end an argument (I hope). Thanks to you, I got something useful out of this rancorous debate. Cheers.
     
  18. microbrewlover

    microbrewlover Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2006 Pennsylvania

    You might want to try-
    "Sunshine Pils" by Troegs
    "Pils" by Laguanitas
     
  19. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Easily, as has been oft referenced...

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    Prima Pils

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    Pivo Pils
     
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