Light struck beer at outdoor patios

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by ZAP, Jul 15, 2019.

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  1. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    Nothing like drinking outdoors during the 4 weeks of summer when you live in Minnesota. Just curious if others take precautions with their beer. I've had some beers get skunky within seconds in the sun when in a glass. Lighter colored beers. Porters, stouts etc seem ok.

    I make sure to keep my lighter colored beers in the shade or drink from a can if possible. Still, I see people get some great IPA and let it sit right in the sun and I think "can't they taste the skunkiness? Maybe they think that is how it is supposed to taste" Not sure. Maybe I'm just hypersensitive to this. Curious if others have issues with this..
     
  2. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    i often have a ballcap on and will put it over the beer to keep it shaded if it's that sunny, typical michael jackson maneuver.
     
  3. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I try to drink in the shade if I can, or I'll put something over my beer to cover it.

    I wonder if newer age hops are as susceptible to skunking. Because I see A LOT of people casually drinking their IPAs in the sun out in beer gardens.
     
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  4. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    I’ve never noticed skunking after just a minute or two in the sun.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Whenever I am outside drinking beer from a glass (e.g., baseball games) I always make sure to keep the beer in the shade. Beers will indeed get skunky (rather quickly in the middle of the day - full sun).

    Cheers!

    @rotsaruch
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you finish your beer that quickly?

    Cheers!

    P.S. Different folks will have varying sensitivity for detecting various off-flavors.
     
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  7. Bouleboubier

    Bouleboubier Grand Pooh-Bah (3,433) Dec 22, 2006 New Jersey
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    Was outside at a local brewery yesterday and had an IPA skunk up in minutes. More on the nose than taste. The beer was aged in Spanish cedar though, which did make for an interesting array of flavors.
     
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  8. KarlHungus

    KarlHungus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,315) Feb 19, 2005 Minnesota
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    I usually just drink inside. A lot of the nicer beer places in Minneapolis have some sort of door system (usually garage doors) that they open up in nice weather making the place feel like you're outside even though aren't. Plus, I get more sun than I want from running as much as I do so I don't have the desire to get anymore while relaxing with a beer.
     
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  9. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    I always knew this was a thing but have really noticed it this summer and have begun to be much more cautious when drinking outside. I do like using glassware, even in my back yard, so after having a few beers turn skunky really quickly in the sun i've been keeping them in the shade as much as possible. Interestingly it was most noticed with NEIPA new-fangled hoppy beers where the change seemed to happen in a matter of moments.
     
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  10. VoodooBear

    VoodooBear Maven (1,362) Aug 25, 2012 Puerto Rico
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    Just so I understand correctly, you guys are saying you sense beer getting skunked after seconds in the sun? I mean, I know beer gets light struck but geez. I guess you could always use a koozie or something to cover up the glass.

    Usually I'm more concerned about beer getting warm quickly rather than light hitting it. But I've never noticed any flavor differences when drinking outside on a sunny day.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Skunking is a chemical reaction which 'reacts' with the isohumulones provided by the hops used to brew the beers. It should be too big of a surprise that a hoppy beer style like 'NEIPA' would be sensitive here.

    If you like science:

    https://beersensoryscience.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/lightstruck/

    Cheers!
     
  12. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,155) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    Pretty much this for me as well.

    Living in Albuquerque, where the sun is dominating, never noticed any issues with my beer when drinking outside.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    For those who are interested in how quickly beer can get skunked via sunlight:

     
  14. KarlHungus

    KarlHungus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,315) Feb 19, 2005 Minnesota
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    Yes, I have experienced beer getting skunked within a minute of exposure to midday sun.
     
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  15. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    CANS ARE THE SOLUTION!!!
     
  16. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    I spent 4 years in Arizona and I can confirm that I've never had light directly "spoil" my beer from drinking in direct sunshine....and I drank a lot of beer in direct sunshine.

    EDIT: I think @IPAExpert69 just solved the mystery for me. I never really drank directly out of clear glasses or bottles when I was drinking outside. Almost always drank directly from can with a few exceptions. I also don't fuck with those clear bottles so there's that, too.

    EDIT EDIT: But then again I recently spent about 15-30 minutes sipping very hoppy beers @ Treehouse in 90+ degree heat in direct sunlight and had no problems with the beer "skunking". The mystery remains unsolved for me, Youtube videos or no.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As I stated in post #6 above:

    "Different folks will have varying sensitivity for detecting various off-flavors."

    Maybe for your palate you are 'blind' to 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol?

    Cheers!
     
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Except that I personally refuse to drink from the can (despite what John Kimmich advocates).

    Cheers!
     
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  19. drinkin-beeers

    drinkin-beeers Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 Montana

    I would hate to have some of your tastebuds.
     
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  20. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    Simple solution, just drink them faster.... :stuck_out_tongue:

    Never had any beers skunk out but I try and keep them in shade to keep them cooler longer. Also I don't have it sitting for very long, I tend to sip faster than others so my beers are short lived.
    Cheers
     
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