Been hearing that this is pouring around Austin, particularly at Whip In Curious if this is a seasonal offering and how easy it would be to get a growler of this one considering its not bottled. Got a few buddies down there who could get this for me if its available, but curious as to the feasibility of this. Thanks
this is a DONG beer, Draught Only No Growlers. If you could find a place to pour a growler, I would hate to see the price. as it's already 6+ for a 10oz pour
Last year I heard about $60 growler fills at Whip In but never saw it with my own eyes. Still would never pay $60 for essentially 5 beers of Tree Hugger...
That's just ridiculous compared to the ~$25 growler of BBA Hellfighter and 512 Double Pecan I had gotten in the past month or so.
Where did you get a growler of Double Pecan? Asked about it at Draughthouse and was told they don't do growlers of that one...
It was at D&Q bottle shop in Houston. They only sell beer in growlers since it is not a bar. Pretty cool place to check out if you are in town.
What about growler fills at the brewery? I assume they would be cheaper, but I also saw that they only give tours 2x a month.
Texas has this lovely set of laws that make it illegal for a brewery to sell you beer at the brewery. So that's a no-go.
A beer CAN be sold at brewery if they only self distribute. If they use distribution they may not sell on site themselves. I do know Live Oak does tours/tastings twice a month and you have to reserve space online ahead of time. I have yet to go to one, but I really want to check it out!! I am pretty sure Live Oak meets standards to sell at the brewery, but whether or not they do, I have no idea.
I also had tree hugger way back in January at Whip-in. Was the morning post JK Anniversary. It's been around here and there since.
I feel like this is beating a dead horse, but this needs clarification. A brewery absolutely cannot sell beer on site, but it can distribute. A brewpub may only sell on site, but it cannot distribute. TABC explains the relevant permits/licenses: B - BREWER'S PERMITPermit authorizes holder to manufacture ale and malt liquor and sell the ale and malt liquor only to wholesale permit holders in this state or to qualified persons outside the state. BA - MANUFACTURER'S LICENSELicense authorizes the holder to manufacture beer and sell it to holders of general, local and branch distributor licensees and to qualified persons outside the state, and to dispense beer for on-premise consumption. (i.e., brewery) versus BP - BREWPUB LICENSELicense authorizes the holder to manufacture, brew, bottle, can, package and label malt liquor, ale, and beer; sell or offer without charge, on the premises of the brewpub, to ultimate consumers for consumption on or off those premises, malt liquor, ale or beer produced by the holder in or from a lawful container, to the extent the sales or offers are allowed under the holder's other permits or licenses; must be held with permit or license authorizing on-premise consumption. Total production cannot exceed 5,000 barrels for each licensed location. (i.e., brewpub)
True. If they self distribute they can only sell to a business with the appropriate licens. That saying, Brandon at D&Q can go to Live Oak and buy some kegs for his establishment. Not personal.
A brewpub is a small production brewery that can sell on site, (with proper license, and to other establishments that also have proper license...self distribution). Forgive me here, but I feel like the need to clarify brewpub vs. brewery is just like TABC claiming difference of ale vs. beer on beer labels....A brewpub is a form of BREWERY, they brew there don't they? Nothing I said was wrong information, I just didn't feel the need to specify details TABC police-style to say that there are breweries that sell on site and do growler fills, and that Live Oak may be able to do so. I posted this once yesterday...or so I thought.
Live Oak can not sell gowlers from the brewery. No way, no how. They fall under a Brewers permit per TABC, not a brewpub. We all know, in Texas, as far as the law goes it does not always make sence. That is the way it is though. Many breweries in the state have been fighting this, and are going to continue to fight it. Saint Arnold, Freetail, and Jester King, being the big three so to speak, leading the way.
Nothing you said was technically incorrect; as Dajtai has pointed out, breweries that self-distribute are allowed to sell beer at the brewery, but only to the proper permit holders (e.g., wholesalers, distributors). In the context of the above conversation, however, where "growler fills at the brewery" were specifically asked about, to respond that a beer can be sold at the brewery is both confusing and misleading, regardless of whether it's technically correct because they can sell to a wholesaler. Additionally, nobody is arguing that brewpubs do not produce beer and employ brewmasters. The point is that, in Texas, "brewery" and "brewpub" are a) loaded words and b) mutually exclusive. Deviation from this convention is also both confusing and misleading, regardless of the fact that brewpubs, as you correctly note, brew beer. Edit: mutually exclusive... for now!
Ok, I wasn't sure what they do, maybe my lack of knowledge concerning them wasn't very helpful at all. I figured they are small enough production that they could have a brewpub, if they chose to, and chose to pay to hold proper license for it. I know it is pointless to carry on the complaint, but damn, Texas law is so backwards! Would be nice to lose the stigma that TABC allows to follow us around every time we tell someone outside of TX that we are from TX!!
