Limoncello IPA

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  1. tmolte

    tmolte Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2015 Norway

    Hello
    Was thinking of this recipe, but don't know regarding the lactose and how much.
    Any other things I should do differently regarding the recipe?
    Batch Size (fermenter): 40,00 l
    Boil Size: 51,32 l
    19 lbs Pilsner (2 Row)
    3 lbs Oats, Flaked
    2 lbs Wheat, Flaked
    5 oz Chinook [11,90 %] - Boil 60,0 min Hop 5 88,1 IBUs
    2 oz Citra [12,00 %] - Boil 10,0 min Hop 7 11,7 IBUs
    2 oz Citra [12,00 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 8 6,4 IBUs
    2 oz Nelson Sauvin [12,00 %] - Mash 5,0 min Hop 4 1,3 IBUs

    5 oz Chinook [11,90 %] - Dry Hop 7,0 Days Hop 10 0,0 IBUs
    2 oz Nelson Sauvin [12,00 %] - Dry Hop 7,0 Days Hop 11 0,0 IBUs

    2 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001)

    1 lbs 5 oz Milk Sugar (Lactose) Boil for 15 min

    Lemmon peel in secondary fermentation
     
  2. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Just transferring my comments from the other thread here:

    I recently had a lactose IPA (Calamansi Milkshake from Tired Hands) that was delicious and had a very interesting mouthfeel for an IPA. They definitely used a truckload of lactose in it. Probably north of 1lb/5gal, or at least 0,96 kg in a 40 L batch. I would guess it was closer to 1,5 kg though. It was incredible at first, but I struggled to finish my second pint. Proceed with caution unless you've had lactose in IPAs before and enjoyed them.
     
  3. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Another good lemon hop is sorachi ace. Check out this beer from Mikeller: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23205/64565/

    They do a 12-hour sour mash to add some tartness. This could be pretty interesting, since any berliner I've sour-mashed has that distinct lemony bite to it from the lacto. Just throwing that out there..

    Recipe looks good to me though, I can see it being pretty tasty.
     
  4. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    I was going to mention the Siren limoncello, they use a 24 hour souring in the kettle I think

    "This is a truly different beer. The concept was to develop the flavour and mouthfeel of Limoncello and fuse with the carbonation and lemony hop hit of an IPA. Using pale and wheat malts, the base beer goes through a 24 hour sour process to add to the tartness of the beer. Tons of lemon zest and juice are added to the boil along with all the citrusy lemony hops available"
     
  5. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    Limoncello IPA is one of my faves, but I've never attempted to brew it.
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Limoncello is lemon, vodka, sugar and water.

    Your beer is bitter grapefruit, mango, pineapple, dank, white grape, cat pee, lemon and lactose.

    I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish here, but a common dose for lactose in a milk stout is 8oz/5gal. A common dose for lactose in an IPA is zero.
     
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  7. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    @Brew_Betty I assume the lactose is to replicate the creamy style of limoncello
     
  8. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Crema di Limoncello is made with a 2.5:1 milk to vodka ratio and a boat load of sugar. It looks like this:

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    5lbs of lactose / 5 gal might not be enough. :confused:
     
  9. Davl22

    Davl22 Maven (1,341) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
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    I'm pretty sure HF used Citra and Sorachi in the boil/dry hop. I wouldn't go heavy on the bitterness if you're planning on doing the sour mash. Bitter and sour tend to clash.
     
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Your hop schedule does not suggest lemon to me. Maybe try sorachi ace, motueka, and lemon drop?
     
  11. tmolte

    tmolte Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2015 Norway

  12. tmolte

    tmolte Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2015 Norway

    Think the Limoncello IPA from Sirene is something like this

    This is anyway what Head Brewer from Fanø/Grassroots brewhouse said in 2011:

    5 pounds Lactose pr 26 gallons of water

    Sour mash for 24 hours
    Citra 10 min
    Citra 5 min
    WP Sorachi Ace

    Dry hop:
    75% Sorachi Ace
    25% Centennial

    WL001

    Peel of 4 lemons the day before botteling
    5,5-6% ABV

    This will be next brew I think, now I need to find a good recipe for my Nelson Sauvin hop :-)
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I'm about 95% sure I would prefer the IPA without the lemon and lactose (and probably a different combination of hops as I am learning that I may not be a big fan of Nelson sauvin).

    With that in mind I recommend making your best regular IPA and finding or making your favorite limoncello and keeping them separate until you are ready to mix them in your pint glass. That way, when you don't like it, you still have a really good IPA and your favorite limoncello.

    If you really are intent on brewing it as you described, maybe consider scaling the recipe to a smaller batch size. This way if you find you don't love it you don't waste as much.

    Where's the emoji for "No fun, but practical?"
     
  14. tmolte

    tmolte Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2015 Norway

    True true hehe
    Will try the Sirene Limoncello in a very small batch later

    Today I will try to find a recipe and brew it to use some of my nelson Sauvion and Chinook hop
    Tips?
     
  15. tmolte

    tmolte Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2015 Norway

    Think I maby will brew this today

    Batch 40 l fermentation
    BB60

    Pale malt 9.6kg
    Crystal malt 0.3 kg
    Cara amber 0.6 kg

    Chinook 100 g 60 min
    Nelson 100 g 15 min
    Nelson 150 1 min
    Nelson 250 g dry hop

    NOTE old hop

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