Long Term Aging Home Brewed Beer

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  1. jimboothdesigns

    jimboothdesigns Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Curious as to what is the longest anyone has aged their home-brews?

    I have only been brewing for a year now and I recently met a gentleman in my neighborhood who has been brewing his own beer since the mid-seventies (now retired from work). He brews mostly lagers and light lagers and he recently invited me over to try some of his beer that he has aged for over eight years! He says they are unbelievable and I am really curious and can't wait to try them.
     
  2. CarolusP

    CarolusP Zealot (590) Oct 22, 2015 Minnesota

    Did he happen to say what style this 8-year-old beer is? My understanding is that unless a beer is higher gravity, it probably doesn't have as good of a chance at long-term aging.
     
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  3. chrisjws

    chrisjws Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Dec 3, 2014 California
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    I aged my last bottle of a robust porter I made for almost two years. It wasn't really high gravity, it was 7%, but it kept really well. I cold aged it so that probably helped preserve it longer. On the other hand I found an extra bottle of a hefeweizen I made 2 years ago and it tasted like sour apples. That was 5% and not cold stored.
     
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  4. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I have tried pilsners that were aged five years and was not at all impressed. The same beer was probably very good at six months.
     
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  5. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I've been aging a Westvleteren clone for well over a year now, and plan to age it for at least 3-5 years (I will still sample some of it from time to time). Apparently it keeps improving over time, and so far, I have noticed a huge improvement over a year ago. Belgian style beers benefit from aging, but some other beers to do. I understand that the hop taste diminishes with time, so IPA's will likely not benefit from too much aging.
     
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  6. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    If it's a lager then I can't see it holding up well at all for that long, but like the others have said if it's higher gravity and meant for aging, then it will most certainly improve! I've managed to keep an entire case of a Belgian-style barleywine that I brewed almost 2.5 years ago. It's also around 14% abv, so it ages like a fine wine
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have some bottles of a Quad that will be three years old in a few months. The beers now have a very big presence of dark dried fruit flavors from oxidation. I will save a few bottles to drink a year from now simply out of curiosity but I am not expecting them to be much 'better' for my palate at that point.

    Like @premierpro mentioned, my lagers (pilsners) are best consumed with less than a year of age. At around the 10 month mark they are starting to taste 'old'.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. jimboothdesigns

    jimboothdesigns Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 Pennsylvania

    He said it was his lager. It really has my curiosity piqued.
     
  9. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Lagers (pilsners) can be unusual in terms of improvement over time because the tastes can be more subtle than darker beers. I've had some pilsners that were best immediately after lagering (for 4-6 weeks), while others improved 2 or 3 months later. It depends a lot on the hops. If the pilsner was a little too strong on hops, then after a few months the taste improved because the hops tend to lose a little of the taste. If they were a little weak on hops, they tasted best immediately after lagering. I've never tried a pilsner I made after 6-8 months or so, so can't comment on how well they keep after that time.

    I should mention that I've saved some commercial braggots (beer and honey) for a year or so, and when I tried them, they had all turned into sours. I actually enjoyed them like that, but they were not supposed to turn out that way. So for sure, some beers you cannot keep for long, while other beers require long aging. Speaking of sours, they require long aging (well over a year) and improve after that.
     
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  10. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    I guess if it's a double bock or some other strong lager there's a chance it would be pretty good. But something like a helles or a pilsner...ehhhhh. Either way it (probably) won't kill you.

    I have an 8% barley wine that just turned two. It's better now than it has ever been.
     
  11. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Well made homebrew will age just as well as an equivalent commercial beer. I've held onto few beers for as long as eight years with generally good results (mostly sours, imperial stouts, barleywine etc.). The only lager I've aged for a significant amount of time was 11% ABV (a strong wheat bock).

    Saturday I brewed the second iteration of a recipe inspired by Courage Russian Imperial Stout. The first batch still tastes great at nine years old. I have a bottle around Christmas once a year. Planning on metering this one out for a few decades!
     
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  12. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    So far 1.5 year old is my longest. IRS or anything dark an over 8 percent has been great at 1 year. Then there are no more
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have had my homebrewed Pilsners (CAP, Bohemian Pilsner, 1896 Michelob) at the 10-11 month mark many times and IMO the term of ‘stale’ is applicable at this point in time. There are no flavors of cardboard or papery but the flavor profile is muddled. The beers are still drinkable (they are not ‘dumpers’) but they just are not as lively as they were just a few months earlier.

    I should caveat that I store my beers in my basement at ‘room’ temperature. If they were continuously stored cold (refrigerator temperature) maybe they could last over a year?

    Commercial pale lagers do not last too long. AB uses a best by duration of 110 days for Budweiser and AB utilizes the best QA/QC in the industry IMO.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have read that dark malts (e.g., chocolate malt, black malt, roasted malt...) have anti-oxidative properties and my homebrewing experience bears this out. A few weeks ago I drank my last Robust Porter that was bottled in October 2014 and at over a year old it still tasted very good. I wish that I would have saved a few more bottles of that batch for continuing research (and drinking enjoyment:slight_smile:).

    Cheers!
     
  15. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Longest aging for me is a RIS that just turned 4 in Jan, last one I tried (a couple months ago) tasted great.
     
  16. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    I havent aged any lagers (don't brew many), but have aged a few others.

    Brown Ale ~2 years (tasted like sweet damp cardboard)
    English Mild ~10 months (no oxidisation, but taste is now just 'meh')
    Pale Ale ~12 months (reached a plateau, started to get a dull flavour)
    Choc/Coffee Milk Porter ~2.5 years (was still good, but starting to thin out)
    Tangello Sour ~almost 3 years+ (getting better, but only 2 bottles left :slight_frown:)

    plus a few other non-beer beverages that age well.
     
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  17. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    A guy in my brew club brought in a 10 year old barleywine that he deemed unprintable when he brewed it, but we all agreed it was incredible
     
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  18. jimboothdesigns

    jimboothdesigns Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 Pennsylvania

    So I was in an antique shop locally and found these beer bottles. They say "lager," "stock" and "properly aged." Maybe my neighbor is using a similar recipe?

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  19. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    An 8 year old homebrewed pale lager?

    <--- Not ISO.
     
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  20. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    My longest aged beer was a Papazian recipe that lay in slumber for 10 years. It was oxidized and gross but didn't start off all that great either. I have bottled lambic like beers as late as 42 months old and still have a few gueuze approximations with a portion going on 6 years old though the oldest blended portion is quite acetic and only useful in small doses.
     
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