Looking for advice/tricks/tips on AG

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  1. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

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    So like that? And i would put that stuff in the mash with the grains? Then to the far right it says "sparge water acidification" so I would have to put one of those in the sparge water?
     
    #21 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 22, 2017
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    How many grams/teaspoons of each does BrewCipher say that is quivalent to?
    I don't have BrewCipher and would like to know it's assumptions for a variety of grainbills.
    Thanks, Vikeman
     
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  3. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    2.5 grams of each
     
    #23 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 23, 2017
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes. I like to stir the salts in with the strike water, then mash-in.

    You don't need to add anything to the sparge water in your case. That's there in case you want to add lactic acid or phosphoric acid to acidify the sparge water. Not needed if you are batch sparging with distilled/RO.
     
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    In OP's case (water to grist ratio, grain bill, and target pH), 2.5 grams of each. I have no idea how many teaspoons that is.
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    @TooHopTooHandle you could certainly add more of either/both salts. Note, for example, the potential recommended profile at the bottom of the water results block. Many IPAs go heavier on the chlorides and especially on the sulfates.

    In your case, you could definitely go heavier without taking the pH too low (i.e. below 5.2, though it would go below your stated target of 5.5).
     
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  7. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

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    I think I am getting the hang of it now, I tired to match your profile for the NEIPA
     
    #27 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 23, 2017
  8. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    Sorry if I am being a PITA, I just want to have all my ducks in a row come brew day so I'm not questioning the process then
     
    #28 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 23, 2017
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, it ain't rocket surgery!
    BTW, what batch size is this for? 7.75 lbs is not much malt for a 5-ish gallon batch...definitely session beer territory.
     
    #29 VikeMan, Jan 23, 2017
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    That's only ~ 1/2 tsp each...(volume measurements being what they are...inaccurate) Ok that makes sense now...OP is shooting for 5.5 pH and I usually shoot for 5.2...OP is using only 2 Row...although I usually will have some Munich and maybe a small amount of Caramel also. Sounds reasonable and about what my thumbrules are: 1 teaspoon each in the mash
     
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  11. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    It's a session S.M.A.S.H. 5 gallons. wanted to keep it simple for my first run, just a test beer lol
     
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  12. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

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    This is on sale for $199, free shipping, and 10% of entire order so I went ahead and grabbed this with a cheap SMASH AG kit for a test run
     
    #32 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 23, 2017
  13. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    Thank you so much for all your help everyone! I would be so clueless without you. I hope one day that I can repay others on here with the knowledge I am gaining from you guys!
     
    #33 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 23, 2017
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Hey, I can't see your pix, but looked up your system...looks nice...so does the kit. Next time try adding some oatmeal or flaked wheat to that same recipe and I think you will find it really improves a session ale. You could also mash it a little higher (155 v 149*F) and lengthen the mash from 60 min to 75-min for the adjuncts. That's the beauty and flexibility of going all-grain. cheers
     
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    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

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  16. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    What will raising the mash temp do? I was going to go with 153, I usually don't follow the directions with the kits because most of the time they aren't the best. From all the videos and reading I've done, most people I see are mashing in the 153-155 range for their ipas
     
    #36 TooHopTooHandle, Jan 23, 2017
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Mash temp mainly affects the fermentability of the wort, and thus how dry the beer will be. You can play with the mash temp in the program to see what FG and ABV are predicted as you change it.
     
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  18. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    Wow this software you guys made is awesome! Thanks for the tips!
     
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  19. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, as Vikeman said, it mainly affects the fermentability of the wort. In this case (a session beer) raising the mash temp along with adding some higher protein flaked adjuncts, will result in a fuller/less watery beer that won't taste like hopjuice.
     
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    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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