Looking for good-tasting, low-calorie, all-grain recipe

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  1. dmvanmeveren

    dmvanmeveren Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2014 South Dakota

    Hey guys.

    As disappointed that I am that I can't convert my lovely fiance into an RIS lover, I would still like to make a homebrew that she could tolerate. And- as much as I hate to say it- she loves to drink Bud Light (her father's beer of choice is Budweiser Select 55).

    Does anyone have any (relatively) low-calorie all-grain recipes that actually taste good? I've always joked that Bud Light is just water flavored with a beer-flavored crystal lite packet, but now I'd like to brew something like it.

    Any help is appreciated
     
  2. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Something like a Blonde Ale, or even a cream ale might do nicely. I'd start w/ a simple malt bill that's some combination of US 2-row/German Pils/Marris Otter/Golden Promise and then cut it with some flaked rice. Mash on the cool end to target a FG in the 1.008ish range to better mimic a "lite" beer (the other option for this crowd would be add some carapils, mash high, and end up with a sweeter final product). Keep the IBU's super super low (probably no more than 10-15) and either go w/ a German hop like Hersbrucker or a fruity hop like Nelson or Mosaic. Ferment on the cool side of a yeast's recommended range. US05/Chico is probably the obvious choice, but a Kolsch or Alt yeast would be nice too.
     
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  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    This is not too hard to do, actually. Off the top of my head, the recipe can be as simple as this, for 5 gallons:

    9 lb pilsner malt
    4-5 oz acidulated malt
    1 oz Saaz hops (60 minutes)
    Wyeast 2565 or White Labs WLP029 or dry W-34/70 yeast
    distilled water
    gelatin

    A couple days in advance, make a 2-quart starter of liquid yeast, or if using dry yeast then no starter required, just use 2 packs. Selection of yeast also depends on your capability for temperature control, but all will give great results. The W-34/70 yeast is great at about 50 F. Wyeast 2565 performs very well in the mid to upper 50s or low 60s. If warmer then use WLP029 and it will still turn out clean as a whistle but even faster.

    Mash in distilled water at 148 F for 1 hour. Boil for 90 minutes, adding the hops at the 60 mark. Chill and add the appropriate yeast. Ferment with temperature as appropriate for the yeast, at least a couple of weeks. The second week, bring the temperature up by 5 degrees or so to help the yeast clean up after themselves. The 2565 can take up to 5 weeks to clear but racking after fermentation subsides seems to help. In any case, gelatin can help clear the yeast out after fermentation is done. To use gelatin, you need the Knox unflavored gelatin. A half a pack is probably enough or just use one full pack, dissolve in a couple ounces of boiled water, and pour it in. A day or two later, your beer will be clear as crystal. Then bottle or keg as normal, give it a week or two to condition, and roll.

    For a really light beer, you could use even less malt, or you can even use more malt and then split the batch so you can have some regular strength, then add distilled water to part of the batch to make the light version -- Budweiser does exactly this, they make a strong version then just water it down, literally. They're geniuses because they can charge just as much for watered down beer. Genius.

    EDIT: Adding ~15% rice or corn is a great idea, I missed that. These likewise aid in diluting down the malt flavor, which is great for someone who doesn't want their beer to have much flavor.
     
  4. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

  5. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Ordinary Bitter

    6ish pounds of Maris Otter or Pearl
    .5 lb Amber malt
    .5 lb C40
    ~12 IBU bittering at 60
    1 oz EKG at flameout
    English ale yeast of your choice.

    Low ABV, Low calorie. All delicious
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    My 'vote' is Cream Ale.

    Cheers!
     
  7. dmvanmeveren

    dmvanmeveren Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2014 South Dakota

    Thanks everybody!

    A quick question on the process though:

    I've got all the hardware for a 10-gallon batch but, since I have to keep my glass fermentor in the fridge to keep it at lager yeast temps, I can't readily fit a giant carboy into my fridge.

    Because of this, I thought I'd split a 5-gallon batch into 5 seperate glass jugs. Are there any practical issues with 5 seperate gallon jugs? Any tips?
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If you want to get close to what they know, brew a cream ale or light american lager. If you want to expand their horizons, try american wheat beer or kolsch or helles. These are all light in color, subtle in flavor, but not necessarily uninteresting, and moderate in gravity and alcohol. If you can get them to the point where they find your beer to be tasty, you might be able to gradually branch out to other styles that are even more distinctive. English bitter, Hefeweizen, patersbier etc. Feed them a progression of beers that more or less cater to their tastes, but perhaps with 1 or 2 minor deviations. Before you know it, they'll be swilling your smoked hop double Belgian IPA and your bourbon barrel peanut butter Russian imperial stouts. Well maybe not. For recipes for my serious suggestions, I recommend zainashef and palmer's Brewing Classic Styles. If you want to make these recipes lower in Gravity to reduce calories, consider reducing the base malts in the recipes by 10%. Alternatively, make them to specification and have unflavored carbonated water available to dilute the beer when you serve it. Not a joke.
     
  9. JoeSpartaNJ

    JoeSpartaNJ Zealot (691) Feb 5, 2008 New Jersey

    I also would go blonde ale.

    I was going to try this soon.

    9lbs Maris Otter
    .5lb Biscuit or Victory (haven't decided)

    .25 oz of Centennial or Galaxy (also undecided) @ 60, 10, 5, FO

    US-05

    May not be technically a blonde, but is will definitely be sessionable and light
     
  10. carteravebrew

    carteravebrew Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2010 Colorado

    Was going to suggest a light lager, as opposed to all the ale suggestions above, because I think they will be more welcoming to a nice clean beer. I don't see any issue with separating into 5 jugs if that's what you need to do to fit in your fermentation chamber (fridge). Just make sure your wort is good and stirred before separating so you don't end up with different gravities between your jugs.

    I, for one, really don't like making beer in 1 gallon jugs strictly due to the pain of getting the beer from the small jug to the serving vessel. But if you have a quasi easy plan for going about that, go for it.

    Also, making a nice yeast slurry and putting the same amount (by weight) in each jug would probably be the best way to go about making sure you get consistent fermentation across all the jugs.

    Recipe suggestion:
    80% Pils
    20% flaked rice
    Bitter w/ noble hops to ~10 or less IBUs
    WLP800 Pilsner Lager yeast
    Mash @ 149*F 60-90 minutes
    Ferment at 50*F 2 weeks
    Diacetyl rest for 2 days
    Lager at 36*F ish for a few weeks
    Water profile suggestions welcome.
     
  11. dmvanmeveren

    dmvanmeveren Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2014 South Dakota



    One of the reasons why I'd like to split the batch into 5 seperate jugs is because I'd like to test out more than one variety of yeast at a time on the same wort. I've got ~15 batches of brewing experience and have got my technique nailed down, so now I can begin to branch out towards flavor experimentation.

    I was considering to initially pitch all of the yeast and the full 5-gallons of wort into a bottling bucket with a spigot and then drain into the 5 jugs, but I see your point that each jug might not get an equal amount of yeast slurry. I appreciate everyone's suggestions!
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Record time, I'd say. :slight_smile:
     
  13. Gritsak

    Gritsak Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2004 West Virginia

    55% 2-row
    42.5% wheat
    2.5% aromatic
    OG ~1.040-1.045
    Mash at 150-152 for 60min
    ~40IBUs: citra and/or amarillo hops 1-2oz@15min, 1-2oz@10, 2-3oz@flameout/whirlpool
    US-05 yeast, ferment at ~66

    made roughly that recipe several times and always a crowd pleaser.
     
  14. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I suggest finding other ways to please your fiancee. Your homebrew is very low on the list of things than can do this.

    I would argue this is more about pleasing and validating you than her. After several tries, she may understand this concept and feign beer pleasure for you. When she eventually divorces you, she will tell you how much your beer sucked and this will hurt you more deeply than you can imagine.
     
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  15. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    I wasn't around for DING, and OVERLORD spent more time banned than on here since I have been around but that is the most dirty asshole of things to say to someone that I can recall.
     
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  16. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    I thought that way for a long time, after even less than 15. Until one thing changed in my process and I was fucked.
     
  17. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Hopefully, the person I said it to has thicker skin than you?
     
  18. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    To OP: BMC should do it...this could get ugly : )
     
  19. dmvanmeveren

    dmvanmeveren Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2014 South Dakota

    I'll just avoid that guy's negativity completely and continue on to beer talk.

    So, I also love the idea of a light lager. Is it absolutely necessary to filter it before bottling? I'll admit, I've only brewed with ale yeast so far.
     
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  20. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    OP, real talk, this is the best advice you've been given so far.
     
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