Took a couple weeks off from brewing and have been pondering my next brew. I have been considering a Brown more then anything (thought about trying a Wookey Jack clone but am not ready for that much hoping). I have been playing around in Brewcipher trying to make something that looks right, as someone with really no "sound" knowledge of what works well together I feel this is dangerous. So I guess my question is what will work well in a Brown for malts? Look a recipes online gives a lot of options but I am not sure what I want and in what amounts? Keep in mind I am still partial mashing. To try am be proactive-ish things I have been looking at just because they sound good based on my LHBS's online descripctions: - 2 row US and LME base. For LME Dark? Amber? Golden? Brewscipher doesn't change much based on color, I am guessing it is all flavor profile. -Pale chocolate, sounds good for a Brown. -Special Roast, seems like a lot of people use this in Browns. -Carafa II, again nice flavor and color - Caramel/crystal 40/45/60? -Willamette (bittering) and Fuggle (aroma/flavor) hops -London Ale III for yeast (and no it probably won't be done with a starter as I have yet to gear up for that). And suggestions or advice for such a brew is most welcome.
If you're going for a hoppy brown I would use dark dehusked malts Carafa 3 is my go to 8 oz in 5 gal would do the trick with 2row I think wookey jack uses midnight wheat along with carafa 3 and some rye malt but I would call wookey a black ale If you're not going hoppy I would use more crystals special b and pale chocolate personally
I've made some nice browns over the years but it's not really a go to style for me. I usually take the approach of starting with a good English pale ale recipe and adjusting with pale chocolate for color. If you have never used wy1469 before I cannot recommend it highly enough. You can never go wrong with EKG to the desired hop profile.
Here is a recipe I've made a couple of times. It is in the fermenter now. I used us05 yeast and other hops and similar crystal malts I had on hand. I don't use the hazelnut flavoring because I'm afraid of messing up a tasty beer. Not real hoppy but you could change that since there is an abundance of crystal. From a recipe created by homebrewer Chris Studach of the Cascade Brewers Society in Eugene OR, Hazelnut Brown Nectar has turned into one of Rogue’s most popular beers, winning many awards worldwide. The picture on the bottle is a caricature of Chris, giving rise to the beer’s nickname “Bald Guy Brown”. OG: 1.057 FG: 1.016 ABV: 5.6% IBU: 25 SRM: 26.2 Crush and steep in 2.75 gallons (10.41 L) of 152°F (66.66°C) water for 60 minutes: 2 lb. (.9 kg) Great Western Munich 10L 1.5 lb. (.68 kg) Great Western Crystal 75L 9 oz. (.25 kg) Great Western Crystal 15L 9 oz. (.25 kg) Great Western Crystal 120L 11 oz. (.31 kg) Baird Brown Malt 4 oz. (.11 kg) Franco-Belges Kiln Coffee Malt ½ tsp. Northwestern hazelnut extract (see note) Strain the grain into your brew pot and sparge with 1 gallon (3.78 L) of water at 160°F (71.11°C). Bring the wort to a boil, remove from heat, and add: 3.75 lb. (1.7 kg) light dry malt extract. Stir well until the extract is dissolved. Add water as needed to bring the volume to 3 gallons (11.35 L). Bring the wort to a rolling boil. Boil for 10 minutes, and then add: 1.2 oz. (34 g) Perle pellets hops (8.7% AA) Boil for 60 minutes and then add: .5 oz. (14.17 g) Sterling pellet hops (8.7% AA) Remove from heat and let hops steep for 10 min. Then chill as quickly as possible to below 80°F (26.66°C). Transfer the wort to fermenter and add cold water to bring the total volume to 5 gallons (18.92 L). The temperature should be below 70°F (21.11°C) at this point. Aerate wort and pitch an appropriately sized starter of Wyeast 1764 Pacman yeast. Ferment at 60-65°F (15.55-18.33°C) until final gravity is reached. You can either leave the beer in primary for 3 weeks, or transfer to a secondary fermenter for a week after final gravity is reached in the primary. Bottle when fermentation is complete with 4 oz. (.11 kg) corn sugar or keg and force carbonate to 2.5 vol. CO2. Add ½ teaspoon of Northwestern hazelnut extract at bottling or kegging. All Grain Instructions Replace extract with 7.75 lb. (3.51 kg) Great Western 2 row pale malt (approximately 1.8-2L). Crush the grain and mash all grain at 152°F (66.66°C) using 5.75 gallons (21.76 L) of water. Sparge with enough water at 180°F (82.22°C) to reach your intended boil volume. Note: According to Brewmaster John Maier at Rogue Ales, Northwestern hazelnut extract is more potent than other brands. If you use another brand, you’ll have to add it gradually at packaging and taste to ascertain the proper amount.
This is my typical brown Maris otter (if minimash or extact, you might find Maris otter extract; if not available maybe Muntons spray malt) 2-4oz pale Choc or Choc malt 2-4 oz dark crystal 4-8 oz crystal 40-60 0-8 oz victory, special roast, or other biscuit or amber. Many English yeast strains would work. For hops, goldings, fuggles, or any English hop for bittering; maybe an house for flavor. If looking for something more 'merica, reduce crystal malts and change hops to cascade, amp up.
2-row base for an American brown, Marris Otter base for an English brown. One or two medium to dark crystals. I like pale chocolate as compared to regular chocolate. Some people will use brown malt (I haven't yet so can't comment on it). For extra flavor, I like Victory, brings a nutty profile perfect in an English brown. I also like to throw in oats to smooth out the mouthfeel.
Not really going for hop heavy so I like these suggestions. I would like to shoot for a 20-25 IBU based on Brewcipher. This seems tricky for me as I try to stick to "normal" times (60/30/15/5) but always seem to come out high using 1oz or .5oz amounts. Any suggestions on how balance that out (Fuggle/Willamette/Goldings preferred). I just noticed a Carabrown malt on the stores website, would this be a good addition?
For your hops, I would simply add whatever you've selected at 60 min. Consider adding some at 15-20 min and maybe 5 min depending on what you're shooting for in regards to flavor/aroma and IBUs. You might only need 2 oz or so in total for 20-25 IBU goal. All of the hops you mentioned would go well in an English brown.
I would go with 60 and 20 minute additions of whichever low as hop you decide to go with. Regarding carabrown it's a good addition to an American style brown. If you use an English base malt I would not want to cover it up with too much specialty malt.
So this is what I am looking at settling on or around, I will admit I stuck with mostly what I was looking at and am taking more of an "American Brown" style: -4.5lb 2-row US -3.3lb Golden light LME -.5lb Caramel 60L -.33lb Pale Chocolate -.25 lb Special Roast -.25lb Carafa II (this is the one that seems like the hardest to place, not sure if I should use something else) -Willamette (60min) -Fuggle (20min) -Wyeast 1469 According to Brewcipher: SRM: 21 IBUs: 29 (a little high but I will live) OG: 1.053 FG: 1.013
This^ I am lucky my LHBS carries brown malt. I used 78% 2 row, 7% brown and chocolate and 8% dark crystal. Came out awesome!
The carafa is going to give you a smooth roast because it has no husk. Its more for color, the special roast brings .ore flavor but can get too acrid if you use too much.
So would Brown malt be better? I talked to my store (mostly to see what they have in stock) and they have it. If so I would imagine that the color would drop, so should I replace pale chocolate with normal chocolate? Or is there a better way to keep the flavor profile and keep in around 20 SRM (playing with Brewcipher is hard when I don't know how all the malts will act together).
If it were me playing with your recipe I would use brown malt if you have access to it. I would drop the special roast and sub in the brown for a percentage of your 2 row addition. Then adjust the carafa to get the color I wanted.
So here's some adjustments: -4.5lb 2-row US (50%) -3.3lb Golden light LME (36%) -.33lb Caramel 60L (4%) -.33lb Pale Chocolate (4%) -.375lb Brown Malt (4%) -.25lb Carafa II (3%) -Willamette (60min) -Fuggle (20min) -Wyeast 1469 According to Brewcipher: SRM: 21 IBUs: 29 (a little high but I will live) OG: 1.052 FG: 1.013