Looking to upgrade from extract to All Grain

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  1. mattymoe812

    mattymoe812 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Indiana

    I'm interested in upgrading my equipment to start brewing all grain instead of just extract/partial mash. What is my best way to go about this without spending too much money? Have a basic set up for extract 5gal batches atm. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Basic setups can vary quite a bit. What's already in yours?
     
  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Brew in a bag! All you need is one huge grain bag. A colander also helps but is optional. Also helps if you make smaller batches as the bag is a little easier to lift out of the kettle that way. With creativity, BIAB can be done with 5 gallons or whatever else, with minimal equipment. When I do it, I use the kitchen stovetop and every soup kettle I can find (I have at least 3 big ones). Then basically do 3 boils at one time and combine near the end. With the same or similar equipment you could also incorporate a single or double "dunk sparge" if you wanted... just using whatever pots and kettles you already have in your kitchen anyway. It works! It makes great beer! For like zero extra dollars.
     
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  4. mattymoe812

    mattymoe812 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Indiana

    By basic setup I mean 5 gallon kettle turkey fryer, couple carboys, couple of bottling buckets.
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Is it actually a 5 gallon fryer, or is it a bigger fryer that allows you to boil enough (starting) wort to make 5 gallons of beer? What's the total volume? The answer could be important if you want to go all grain and possibly BIAB.
     
  6. pittvkyle7

    pittvkyle7 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2007 Connecticut

    When I started I used a cooler for a mash tun. I made a manifold out of pvc.
    There are endless possibilities to make an all grain set-up on the cheap!
    What type of set-up interests you?
     
  7. mattymoe812

    mattymoe812 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Indiana

    It's 20 qt so 5 gallon total i plan on buying a bigger kettle as i know i will need something bigger. Right now i boil with 2.5 gallons or so and top off in fermenter
     
  8. mattymoe812

    mattymoe812 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Indiana

    I was looking at getting a cooler for a mash tun. I would assume it would be cheapest to convert myself rather than buying one already converted?
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, you'll need a bigger kettle for all grain. Then it's just a question of mash tun vs. Brew-In-A-Bag. I'd recommend building a mash tun, and go bigger than you think you'll need. You can play around with the "Can I Mash It" calculator at http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml to get an idea.
     
  10. pittvkyle7

    pittvkyle7 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2007 Connecticut

    Its always cheaper to make your equipment on your own. To me, this is a big part of the hobby! Plus, you might have a lot of the needed equipment laying around.
     
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  11. mattymoe812

    mattymoe812 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Indiana

    Thanks for all your help i'm thinking about starting bigger just so if/when i decide to go to 10 gallon batches i don't need to upgrade yet again. 15 gal kettle would be big enough for 10 gal i assume as far as a cooler for the mash tun any suggestions. How big would i want to go to allow 10 gal batches in future. Sorry so many questions been doing extract for a while but have no experience when it comes to all grain.
     
  12. pittvkyle7

    pittvkyle7 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2007 Connecticut

    I've been brewing 10 gallon batches on a system with 2 converted kettles as my boil kettle and mash tun. I use a 8.5 gallon pot as my HLT.
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I think that could work, but depending on your starting wort volume (which will be more than your post boil target volume) and the vigor of your boil, it could be tight.

    For the mash tun, it will depend not only on batch size, but also on gravity, i.e. high gravity/abv beers will need a bigger tun. That's why I linked the Can I Mash It calculator so you can experiment.
     
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  14. sgbeer

    sgbeer Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2016 Pennsylvania

    Size matters. Bigger the better, buy as large as you can comfortably afford. I regret that I purchased some smaller equipment when going all grain and have since been incorporating larger mash tuns (which I built from coolers) and larger boil pots. A little elbow grease and you can build your own equipment for probably half the price as you will pay for it completed. You might also have a bit of luck finding equipment on craigslist from homebrewers who have given up.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    For somebody like you who continued the homebrewing hobby that is indeed a genuine concern. For the many others who started a bit and then quit homebrewing the issues are quit different.

    Cheers!
     
  16. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    +1 to biab as an inexpensive approach.
     
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  17. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Yeah but bigger is always better, don't you know. It's the American way. :wink:
     
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