Looks like a dumper to me...

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  1. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    What do you think? Infected? It doesn't look pretty, that's for sure.
    Lessons learned: don't let the cranberries float?
    Any chance i can maybe skim the top and hope to salvage the bulk of the batch, or is this a lost cause?

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  2. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    I can't tell shit from that picture. What's it taste like?
     
  3. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    Sorry, I can't really get a better pic through the glass.
    I haven't tasted it yet, but it seems like there's a pretty substantial white mold growth concentrated near the center of the berries. Though honestly, it doesn't smell too bad.
     
  4. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Maybe a closer picture of the top of the beer. Cranberries do contain sugar so it might just be another sacc fermentation but the picture is too small for me to tell on my laptop.
     
  5. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    Here's a shot right down the neck...eef...

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  6. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    I think I'm going to try and bottle it up and just see what happens. This was an "experimental" batch anyway, so I'm not crying if I have to dump it.
     
  7. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    If it's finished fermenting and it tastes good, then rack it into a new carboy with some potassium sorbate & a couple crushed campden tablets. You'll kill whatever might be growing. If you're kegging then you're good to go. If you're bottle conditioning, you'll want to let it sit a while longer then add some yeast at bottling time.
     
  8. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    That kinda looks like pectin. Did you boil the berries?
     
  9. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    pull a sample from under
     
  10. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    Did you freeze the berries to break the cell walls?
     
  11. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    I didn't boil them. I "steamed" them for a few minutes in a double boiler, keeping the temp at or below 160F. And yes, I froze them before steaming them too.
     
  12. oregone

    oregone Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2008 Oregon

    Looks a lot like a forming pellicle around the fruit. My vote is infection.
    What kind of brew?
    If it's not one that some sour and/or funk would favor, I'd follow leedorhams advice and try to kill it. Or split half off trying not to disturb the top layer.
    I definitely would be hesitant to bottle with an infection. Potential bombs.
    Where's the gravity at? How long has this been going?
     
  13. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    if you steamed them for long enough, you probably pasteurized them and this should not be contamination, not from the fruit anyway. adding fruit to a beer will cause it go undergo another fermentation cycle. give it a 2-3 weeks and taste it. dont bottle early or else the sugars in the fruit will continue to ferment in the bottles and youll have a collection of bottle bombs.

    definitely dont dump it. if the belgians dumped every fruit beer they made that got contaminated, the world would have been robbed of lambics for hundreds of years.
     
  14. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    It was kind of just an experimental brew I was trying, with a vaguely ESBish base, and only 1lb. cranberries in an attempt for a more subtle fruit taste. It's been in the secondary with the berries for about 2-3 weeks now.
    Maybe I'll do as suggested and rerack it with the potassium sorbate.
    Speaking of which: how much to use for a 5 gallon batch?
     
  15. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Looks like it's infected. Give it a taste. If it's ok, you might as well bottle and drink it as soon as you can. Infections rarely ever taste better with age.
     
  16. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    2.5 tsp
     
  17. Rifugium

    Rifugium Grand Pooh-Bah (4,747) Mar 2, 2009 North Dakota
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    Ok guys, thanks for the advice. It smells fine, and tastes ok. I think I am going to bottle it up and just hope for the best. I'll keep myself prepared in case of bottle bombs.
     
  18. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    I will go against the grain and say I do not see a single thing to worry about in that picture.

    I would not do/change anything based on that picture.
     
  19. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    It doesn't look like mold to me. I'm with the others, bottle it up.
     
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