I´m just trying to get some feeback on this as a possible intl. trade. Would a couple of St Lam work, or should I add? Shipping costs for one bottle (no extras) to Europe should be about $25 I don´t have a desperate need to land this but I was curious to try one after all the hype. Threadshitting and advice all welcome.
Am I right in thinking DB Huna was $20? If so you're going well over €4$ on your side so that should help. Depends on whether it's worth the effort to the prospective other party and they are clued up on optimal international shipping.
Actually it was $25. But to answer OP's question, St. Lamvinus and other mid tier Cantillons (Fou, Lou, Mam) show up reasonably often around the US (if not where I live, then certainly around some other part of the US), so why would I, or anyone else in possession of one, for that matter, want to pay international shipping rates for bottles that can essentially be gotten stateside?
I'm sure there are people in the states who would offer the same thing so you might need to be overly generous of offer something euro exclusive to get someone to ship internationally.
Not that I know but I offered a DB Huna for a Fou' Foune and I got 10 or so replies in about 10 minutes. I ended up only having to ship from MN to IL.
Yeah I'm not surprised by those offers. It's all subjective really. Fou Foune for me has been one of those beers that is always consistent taste wise as well as trading if that's your thing (which of course it is or none of us would be here). Either way Fou Foune is a special beer and it's NOT easily gotten in the states anywhere, nor is it cheap.
Possibly but European and Canadian traders seem to be feeding a never-ending appetite for Loons in the States. I've got three boxes going out this week.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's easily gotten (though it has managed to appear at Walgreens once or twice already), but the way Shelton and Progressive seem to distribute, it seems a different part of the country in their dist footprint gets some form of Cantillon (maybe Lou and Fou here in FL one month, St. Lam and Mouche in KY the next, etc.). In any case, my point is that while there are a select few willing to drop the extra coin on int'l trades, many of us, myself included, would prefer to trade in the states for some. Personally, the only way I'd go int'l with DB is if there were some offer of specialty lambic like 50N or Hommage.
OK, thanks for the replies. At least I know how it trades now, more or less. I´ll just wait til the next time I´m in the US and trade for it then. Just fyi though, I wouldn´t hand over Hommage or 50N for one. If I had more of those I´d already be gone looking for the corkscrew.
Definitely just your opinion, man, but the recent rebrew on both of these have lowered the value a notch or two and lifted the bottle count availability the same. FWIW I got offers on Hommage several times, stateside. I suspect it was a little late to "get 'em while they're hot" for 50N or it's just a step higher. even though I never went to the other site with the offer, and they're more international. I know, yearly remake blah blah, but Double Barrel might not be, so this could be a one off in and of itself.
I'm from Florida, I'm in the El Catador Club, I have my two bottles left (saying all this to show im not bias)... but c'mon man you don't seriously believe yourself right now do you? Ya DB is a great beer and yes it should trade 1:1 for fou or for other similar level Cantillon, but no Cantillon is relatively attainable at this point. I dont think a store getting Fou once or twice a year when they usually impose a 1 bottle limit and it sells out in ten minutes makes it relatively attainable (unless they sell the whole 6 bottle case to one person in which case that recipient may think its attainable). Bringing up reviews for 50N and Hommage doesn't seem to matter that much (for that matter when has any review of a Cantillon or 3F beer ever lowered its trading status). DB is an awesome beer, but lets keep the FL traders overrate their exclusives to a minimum shall we.
I know what I know because I've gotten the offers. It's all attainable if you just ask, often times people will put these beers on a pedestal due to pedigree and being on some silly list. Hommage was a 5K bottle release, 50N was around 3K. Do you really think it's that far out of whack to ask out of some preposition that the earlier iterations of these beers are "white whales"? Despite the 3F and Loon having remade them not more than 1 year ago? I don't and apparently some folks in Belgium and even here don't think so, either. I'll say this, Fou is a toughie to get, but it does seem to pop up sporadically around the states almost year round (thanks Shelton Bros.). That is a yearly release, and I've knocked it down with a LiL before. Just takes the right set of eyes, as they say.