Low attenuation yeast

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  1. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    I am planning a brew session this weekend for my English Tumbler clone. I have selected Empire M15 yeast for the job but it has a reputation of being low attenuation - sometimes less than 70%


    My calculations show an OG of 1.063. At 70% that leaves a FG of 1.019. What effect will that have on my beer?
     
  2. zizouandyuki

    zizouandyuki Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2015 Texas

    Can you share more on the recipe and the beer you're cloning?
     
  3. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Its a version of SN Tumbler Autumn Brown done with English ingredients. Originally it was going to be my first BIAB recipe but I'm going to stick to extract w/ grains for one more batch.

    Size 1.25gal

    Extract
    1.75lb Pilsen DME

    Steep
    5oz Dark Crystal
    2oz Pale Chocolate
    1oz Smoked

    Hops
    .33oz Willamette Pellets @60min
    .67oz Willamette @5min

    Yeast:
    M15 Empire
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You will have a beer with appreciable body and mouthfeel. This could be a very good thing if these are attributes you desire in this batch of beer.

    You should also keep in mind that attenuation values of yeast that is provided my vendors is a relative measure (i.e., compare strain A vs. strain B). What attenuation you actually achieve is highly dependent on the fermentability of your wort.

    Cheers!
     
  5. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    The figures they quote are 70-75% but I've read people getting as low as 66%. I figure with it being mostly extract it will be on the higher range but I wanted to be prepared.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It all comes down to the fermentability of the wort (i.e., the composition of the sugars). With extract you have little control here so you will find out as you go along.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. zizouandyuki

    zizouandyuki Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2015 Texas

    Thanks for sharing. Based on your recipe, your attenuation will be slightly lower than SN's, which was 74%. You're FG will be slightly higher (1.014 vs 1.019), so your beer may be slightly sweeter than SN's, but ingredients are also a factor for how much sweetness/dryness is perceived. Your ABV should be very similar: 5.5% abv (SN) vs. 5.78% abv. (yours).

    Others who are more familiar with M15 can weigh in, but I think this looks like a pretty solid extract clone. Keep us posted on how it turns out!

     
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  8. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Following: I want to know how this yeast turns out. I've been curious about the mangrove yeast strains.
     
  9. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    How did you determine the FG?
     
  11. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    This is a little tangent. I've found a couple tricks work for high flocculating yeast, such as a number of British strains, to get them to attenuate. They benefit with a slow temp ramp up and a bit of a rouse towards the end of active. I ferment at 65 deg F for 4 days, then do a 2 deg per day raise to 71, hold for 4 days and reverse; each day shaking twice a day. Once back to 65, I step shaking and just take temp control off and age as needed. It helps to get a couple of points and keep it from being too sweet.
     
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