Low Volume; weird results

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by SirRuss, Sep 8, 2013.

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  1. SirRuss

    SirRuss Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2010 California

    So i brewed up a 10ga of all-grain English ale last week, but stupidly failed to take into account a couple of factors that resulted in a final primary fermentor volume of 8ga. I expected at this point that the OG would be higher than the estimated 1.046, the color darker, and the flavors stronger.... However, the OG only read 1.042, and having just tasted it from a sample drawn from the primary fermenter the malt flavor seems thin, but the hops seem enhanced (i'm guessing closer to 45IBU than the intended 31).

    Does anyone have any idea what's going on here, and even better do you have any fast-fix solutions (I have to put it into cask ideally tomorrow, but definitely with 72hrs at the latest)???

    Cheers all
     
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  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What were the couple of factors you forgot to take into account?

    Based on the limited facts presented, my guess is that you didn't use enough water in your mash/sparge, which contributed to a low mash efficiency (though given the numbers, the efficiency was probably going to be low anyway). You would expect higher bitterness in this lower volume, because you have more alpha acids isomerized and utilized per gallon....but judging bitterness before fermentation and carbonation are done can be misleading.

    Is there really a problem to fix?
     
  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    If you wanted to you could whip up some LME or DME and add it to your primary. I'd heat it and cool it first and just dump it in.

    As for what went wrong, I'd start pointing a finger at low efficiency. Crush, sparge water volume, temp, pH etc.

    As fuhrer VikeMan has suggested, sometimes fixing the problem will only cause more problems. Being a little high or low on IBUs or Gravity isn't the end of the world for a session beer. If you were going to enter this into a competition, you'd have DME on hand, and you'd be willing to rebrew to meet your needs more specifically. :wink:

    Consider rounding out your hop flavor with MORE hops. Dry hop with something nice and you won't taste the bitterness as much.
     
  4. SirRuss

    SirRuss Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2010 California

    Thanks guys; in a rush to get this one into the hands of some thirsty people, so will dry hop and hope for the best.
    Cheers!
     
  5. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    You did not mention Grain bill, hop bill, or mash temp. etc.

    Don't forget 22% of initial volume can be absorbed by the grain. Example: start mash with 20# of grain, the grain will absorb ~ 20#*0.22 = ~4.4 G lost to grain absorption, then there are other losses, system losses, temp shrinkage, boil losses, etc.
     
  6. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    "In a rush."

    I would say that nine times out of ten, when somebody posts here about a batch that went disasteriously wrong, those three words figure prominently in their description of the process. Just sayin.
     
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  7. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I think it would be useful for us to know what was your recipe and procedure in order to understand why you ended up with less wort qty. and less OG wort.In a naked eye it seems like there was an efficiency problem but it is not for sure because we don“t know the grain bill you have used.
     
  8. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Since your gravity is fairly close to what you planned and under your target, I suspect most of your "lost volume" happened on during the transfer to the fermenter. You might have underestimated boil kettle's dead space, underestimated losses due to hop absorption, underestimated your transfer loss to the fermenter, or some sort of combo of those possibilities.

    Now if your preboil gravity was way lower than anticipated, I'd then gues that you underestimated your boil off rate and that the extra boil off helped to get your gravity closer to your original target while lessening your overall volume.
     
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