Maintaining Mash Temp

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  1. trevord13

    trevord13 Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Virginia

    Is it possible to keep mash temps consistent for hours with a 10gal cooler mash tun? I`m looking at the Tropic Thunder APA in the recipe forum, and can`t imaging my cooler would maintain 150 for 10hours as suggested.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't think there's a cooler that will maintain a mash temp for 10 hours. But I doubt that it's necessary.
     
  3. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    I believe that @jbakajust1 puts that time in there because he regularly does overnight mashes. It is not necessary to do an overnight mash, that it just his preference based on his timing/schedule. I would assume you will be fine doing a normal 60 minute mash.
     
  4. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    There was a recent thread that dealt with overnight mashing.

    Search the forum for "overnight mash".
     
  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    As @VikeMan alluded to, I don't actually maintain that temp for 10 hours. I do overnight mash (@scurvy311 is referencing my thread here). It drops to around the high 130*s over that 10 hours. As @OddNotion stated, I wrap my MLT in a heating blanket and old sleeping bag for the overnighter. I do it for the convenience of having my Saturday to myself (Friday night mash after boys go to bed, then ready to go with a sparge in the morning and boil). If attempting that beer (or any of my beers that reference long mashing times) do a standard 60 minute and adjust the Mash Efficiency to your parameters, then adjust the grain bill to those parameters to get the same % and OG as you would with any other recipe. That beer is really enjoyable too. Good luck.
     
  6. trevord13

    trevord13 Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Virginia

    Awesome - thanks for the feedback. I`ll give it a try next weekend.
     
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  7. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    If you are going to mash "normally" consider dropping your mash temp a few degrees... A wort @ 150 dropping to 130 over 10 hours will be more fermentable than a wort at 150 for 1 hour!
     
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  8. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    What is the meaning of mashing so long?
     
  9. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Mostly as a time saver on brew day. On brew day morning, you sparge and start the boil.
     
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  10. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I did it originally to break up my brew day. I now do it for beers that I want to finish very dry. I brewed a 1.055 Cream Ale a few years ago that finished at 1.003 using US-05. It was damn near flavorless (I loved it!). It's also an excellent technique for Imperial styles if you're looking for a lighter body. I suppose you could do much the same using table sugar, but this seems, somehow, more 'correct'.

    FWIW, my cylindrical Rubbermaid cooler typically loses about 6 degrees over nine hours. I lay pot holders on the otherwise uninsulated lid.
     
  11. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina


    It is a bit risky of picking up some harshness
     
  12. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    That's not been an issue in the handful of times I've done it. It's consistent (predictable) enough to have earned a permanent spot in my bag of tricks.
     
  13. toastw

    toastw Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2008 Texas

    I think I need to experiment with this two-day technique. Thanks for the tip!
     
  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Just used it again on Friday/Saturday. Dropped about 12*F over 10 hours of mashing. I have done super dry beers, and big chewy ones (mashed at 160*F for a Wee Heavy). It breaks up the brew day. No way I was hitting the garage at 8am and leaving it at noon producing 4 fermenters containing 3 beers from 2 boils off of 1 mash for a roughly 1.044 wort from 20# of grain using a typical 1 hour mash. Had the whole rest of the day to spend with family.
     
  15. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Nope. Never had any harsh flavors, no tannins, no off flavors, no sourness. Makes great award winning beers.
     
  16. toastw

    toastw Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2008 Texas

    Do you have any idea how steep the temperature dropoff is when it starts to fall?

    Like would you say there's no noticeable dip in temp for the first, 4 hours? Or would you say you consistently lose a degree every hour?

    I don't expect you've measured, but if you have, I'd love to hear how it measured out!
     
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't have numbers (and I'm not the one you asked), but thermodynamics pretty much dictate that the temperature drops per time period (after accounting for the heat being produced by the mash itself) will be bigger early on than they will later.
     
  18. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    @toastw I would default to @VikeMan as he knows more about brewing (and sciency stuffs) than me and I have never done any experiments or measurements. Every time you get in there to check you would be releasing the heat in the form of steam from the head space thus impacting the temp drop over time. I guess I could put a digital probe thermometer in there, but the temp drops more towards the exterior of the rectangular MLT than the interior, and even more-so close to the metal ball-valve and pick-up tube so readings would have to be performed at various locations in the MLT at once.
     
  19. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    lol! (funny thing to write, but I catch and totally understand your drift though)
     
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