Making Malta Starter Tonight..

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Lefty1881, Sep 2, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

    Have a pack of Wyeast 1084 Irish Ale that's dated 7/12/12 so need to get it going.
    Need to know how much malta to water ratio I need to get it going good, without over straining it with too much malta.

    The stout we are making is 1.099 , so of course I have another fresh pack of yeast I will be straight pitching - I just wanted to get this older pack started for brewing on Tues night. Thanks.
     
  2. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Yeastcalc.com suggests 334 billion cells for this beer. It figured that you have about 61 billion viable cells left in that pack. Assuming your fresh pack has 100 billion viable cells, you need to make 61 into 234 billion cells.

    If you shake the starter every now and agin (every hour is a good way to do it), you need about a 3 litre starter.

    If you put both packs into the starter, you only need a 2 litre starter.

    As for how much Malta? I'd take a gravity reading of that stuff and then dilute it to 1.037 - 1.040. Easier just to use DME IMO.
     
  3. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

    Well here's what I did...
    4 of the 7oz bottles that I stirred to get the gas put, with 2 cups boiled water. Cooled, shook the crap out of it and pitched the pack. Shook again pretty good and now going to sleep. Hope it gets chugging overnight.

    If it gets going I'll buy two other packs to pitch with, if nothing happens - I'll buy 3. What ya think?
     
  4. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    I think youre needlessly spending a ton on yeast to be honest... IMO you are best off making a starter that will get you the proper cell count... you are looking at spending 20 to 30 bucks on the yeast alone in this case
     
    kjyost, AlCaponeJunior and cavedave like this.
  5. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

    Well looks like nothing is happening anyway. And we are brewing tomorrow.
     
  6. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    It looks like you're guessing. What was the gravity of the starter wort? Why do you think this will get you anywhere near your desired cell count?
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

  8. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

    I has yeast cake! And a ton of it.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

  10. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

    Well here's the problem.. I live in Dania, my yeast was in Davie, and all our brewing equipment is in Plantation at my buddy's house. So we have a lot of guessing and 'ah hell let's just do it's' .
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    So being in two different locations stops you from reading, thinking, and communicating? I'm not buying it, but then, it doesn't matter. It's your beer. (Personally I would put more effort into recipe and process planning and less into designing labels.)
     
  12. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

    (you don't have to put in parenthesis that you're jealous of our labels)
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Okay. Got it. Thanks!
     
  14. Wreckoncile

    Wreckoncile Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2011 California

    And that is why you will NEVER work for BMC.
     
  15. Lefty1881

    Lefty1881 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Florida

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.