Malt Beverage....Beer

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  1. travolta

    travolta Maven (1,369) Feb 4, 2004 California
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    Can someone shed some light on what the difference is between a malt beverage and a beer?
     
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  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    In the US, there is none. "Malt Beverage" is the legal term for all "beer".

    From the TTB publication
    The Beverage Alcohol Manual (BAM) - A Practical Guide
    Basic Mandatory Labeling Information for MALT BEVERAGES
    Volume 3 Chapter 4


     
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  3. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Are all beers malt beverages, but not all malt beverages are beers...like Smirnoff Ice, etc??
     
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  4. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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  5. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    I only scrolled down far enough to see if @jesskidden answered your question.
     
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  6. BallantineBurton

    BallantineBurton Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Massachusetts

    Very technically Beer is a taxable beverage fermented from grains and/or sugars. Under the Federal Alcoholic Administration Act, a malt beverage must contain fermented barley malt and some amount of hops.
    Most beers are malt beverages although a few such as gluten-free beers fermented from sorgham or molasses are not because they do not contain barley malt. They are still taxable as beer.
    Most malt beverages are taxable beers although many near-beers (O'Douls, Kaliber, the various N/A's) are not taxable because of the alcohol content under 0.5% ABV.
    State laws often use the terms beer, malt beverage, and malt liquor interchangeably. One state taxes and regulates "malt beverages" while another state taxes and regulates "beer."
     
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  7. BurgeoningBrewhead

    BurgeoningBrewhead Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I've always been confused why some bottles had a label and others didn't...there's all sorts of beer on the shelves that doesn't say anything, and then there'll be one that says "Malt beverage with flavors added."
    Makes it sound fake and cheap, I hate it.
    Why do some bottles have that very USDA-official-looking label, and others have nothing?
     
  8. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    the labeling requirements of the state you're in. :rolling_eyes:

    now if malt beverage refers to something like smirnoff ice beverages, that's NOT beer, that's malternatives. These are crappy sugar-water concoctions with flavoring, color, and alcohol added and aren't worthy of the shelf space they hold up.
     
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  9. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

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    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Well, my lad. A malt beverage is a beverage made from malt. "Malt beverage", as a term, is meant to enclose all beer, ale, and porter (and everything in between), without having to distinguish between them. It's easier to tax beer and ale as one product than having two different sets of standards.

    That's my theory, at least.
     
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  11. _-_-Jason-_-_

    _-_-Jason-_-_ Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2014 New York

    Pointless FYI: Ovaltine is a malt beverage (except the blue packaging in the US :confused:)

    "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"
     
  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "When a malt beverage is made with the addition of spices, fruit, honey or natural flavors, it requires specific labeling to indicate the class designation. These malt beverages must be labeled with a statement of composition that reflects the base malt product and the added ingredients, unless otherwise known to the trade under a particular designation. Examples of statements of composition that you might see on malt beverage labels included 'Premium malt beverage with natural flavors' 'Ale fermented with spices' or 'Belgian-style Wheat Ale brewed with natural flavors'."

    Ha, ha... The ones brewed without barley malt are "beers" under the Internal Revenue Code, but they're not TTB regulated "malt beverages". Ditto for "beers" brewed without hops. Read all about it.
    * ("Aboot" - Bitterbill, I didn't realize you were Canadian :wink:).

    Oh, they got a whole list of them now but it doesn't include all the approved "wholesome products" like Sunflower Lecithin Antifoaming Product, Dimethyl Dicarbonate, Calcium Pantothenate or polyvinylpolypyrrolidone (PVPP) and polyvinylimadazole (PVI), which the TTB calls (contrary to the accepted industry definition of the term) "adjuncts". :wink:
     
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    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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  14. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    What about dihydrogen monoxide?
     
  15. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Super dangerous stuff there.
     
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