Maltiest Imperial IPA

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  1. muletrane

    muletrane Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Southern Tier Gemini.
     
  2. trenchtown4

    trenchtown4 Devotee (378) Apr 13, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Maybe I had two separate old bottles, but it definitely had lost any punch it may have had. I would give a fresh bottle another go.
     
  3. EgadBananas

    EgadBananas Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2009 Louisiana

    as another said, He'Brew Lenny's RIPA is a pretty malty DIPA.

    I'll also add to the people suggesting hoppy american barleywines like Bigfoot, Hog Heaven, Old Guardian. That will definitely get your hops and your malt fix simultaneously.
     
  4. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    120 minute is not all that malty to me, I don't see how people say that. Is it sweet? Hell yea, super sweet but the sweetness is more sugar than malty.

    For me DFH 90 is super malty, as is Moylans Moylander and ST Unearthly. I would also add Devil Dancer and of course Double Crooked Tree to the list too, super malty.
     
  5. CaptainTripps

    CaptainTripps Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2010 Arizona

    Well I guess that just depends upon which west coast DIPAs you have had now doesn't.
     
  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Those beers aren't readily available in the NW (hell, they aren't readily available down here in Baltimore), so more than likely he's never had them. IMHO, HF DIPA's are very, very similar to Hop Venom and Notorios from Boneyard. In any event, I agree that none of the beers you mentioned are particularly malty (however, given what East Coast beers are available out West - 120 minute, 90 minute, unearthly, etc. - you can understand why he might have that impression).
     
  7. CaptainTripps

    CaptainTripps Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2010 Arizona

    I have had Heady topper, Lawsons and HF IPA's. They are the few of the East Coast IPA's that don't fall into the sterotypical east coast IPA rut. But I made my judgement based upon the majority of what I have had from the East Coast based upon a fair evaluation (not judging them based upon a 3 month old bottle).
     
  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I take IPA's like Heady Trooper and those from HF as a sign that brewers out here are starting to move away from that malty, so-called East Coast style (and thank God for that!). When I first moved out here in 2007 I was very, very unhappy with the IPA situation on the East Coast. Bell's two hearted and later Victory's hop wallop were the only beers I could stand. However, as an increasing number of West Coast IPA's became available out here, I think a lot of brewers so how popular they were, and started thinking "we can do this... we're missing an opportunity here."

    Anyway, I still know what people mean when they refer to an East Coast style IPA, but I think increasingly, that stereotype is less and less true/accurate.
     
  9. zombiedust3030

    zombiedust3030 Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2012 Ohio

    a ruined dreadnaught? must of been past its prime. the beer does have a strong malt backbone but in order to be so malty it was ruined it had to be old!
     
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  10. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    He'Brew Lenny's RIPA (by far)
    Any Dogfish IPA outside of 60 minute.
    Unearthly

    I see all the responses for Maharaja. I agree it has a prominent malt profile, but I still get lots of tropical hop notes there. So it's more balanced to me. The ones I listed above taste more malty than hoppy to me. (I remember the days when 90-min tasted super hoppy to me ::sigh:: )
     
  11. TheJollyHop

    TheJollyHop Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2009 California

    Maharaja and Knuckle Sandwich without a doubt.
     
  12. BeerSingh

    BeerSingh Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2009 India

    Double Dog by Flying Dog - almost Barleywinish
     
  13. oxide

    oxide Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2011 Vermont

    Maharaja or Mikkeller. I found nearly all his IPAs to be extremely malt forward, and, in some cases, the malt overpowers the hops to an unpleasant point. I recently tried the BrewDog collab "I Hardcore You" and I Beat yoU side-by-side, and they were both just total malt bombs. There was a slight bitterness, no citrus/pine/hop flavor, and an off-putting amount of malt. The 1000 IBU was very good, but even that was super malty.
     
  14. awalk1227

    awalk1227 Initiate (0) May 2, 2010 Georgia

    Sounds like you may be getting older bottles of this stuff. I've had both fresh bottles and draft pours of Maharaja, and while a 10% ABV DIPA will contain some malt character, it's been incredibly hoppy every time I've had it. Like grapefruit preserves mixed with pine needles, that kind of thing. Same for Mikkeller. I just tried the Hop Burn High DIPA and it had a nice hop character to it as well. Give them another try if you ever see them on tap!
     
  15. cpinto6

    cpinto6 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 Georgia

    Are you sure the gemini was fresh? I agree with you on the other 2 but when I had Gemini on tap awhile back it was awesome and it was definitely a hoppy beer.
     
  16. awalk1227

    awalk1227 Initiate (0) May 2, 2010 Georgia

    We poured two FRESH kegs of Saranac High Peaks DIPA at our growler shop and I was dumbfounded with the lack of hop character in them. They could have called it an "Imperial Amber Ale" and that would have been more fitting.
     
  17. oxide

    oxide Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2011 Vermont

    I've had Maharaja both old and somewhat fresh, and it's been enjoyable both times. The higher abv does warrant more malt, but that was just an observation. My main criticism in my first post was that Mikkeller's stuff has always been wayyy too malty for my palate, as well as the guys I typically do tastings with. Some of his stuff is older, for sure, but they are brewed quite differently than the styles a lot of us are used to. The predominant flavors in his IPAs generally include toffee, butterscotch, and straight up malt. Except for the 1000 IBU, I haven't found one that has a hoppy aroma or citrusy palate.
     
  18. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    As I recall, the Gem is a blend of the Hoppe and Unearthly, both of which were pretty sweet and malt forward. So it makes sense that Gemini would be more of the same.

    Been a while since I had it now, but I thought the gem was a very sweet and boozy beer, albeit one with a considerably, underlying hoppy bite as well.
     
  19. cpinto6

    cpinto6 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 Georgia

    Yes it is, and its the 1st one I tried so I naturally went for the ones that made the blend next and they were malty as hell and I didn't like them. I could swear they do something more than just blending those 2 beers to get gemini. Who knows though maybe its just palate differences and not that you had an old one. Also, it was at the beginning of my craft days so I just remember I liked it and not the parts that make the blend. Since I have honed in to that I hate malty IPAs I just assumed gemini wasn't but maybe its one of the few exceptions I do like. I don't think I knew back then what a malty IPA tasted like. I'll have to revisit it at some point to know.
     
  20. BirdsandHops

    BirdsandHops Grand Pooh-Bah (3,061) Apr 14, 2008 Oregon
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    As sure as I could be with undated bottles that had just shown up in the store. It was better than the Unearthlies, but atill way too sweet (and I prefer maltier DIPAs like Hopslam, Abrasive, and Double Jack).
     
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