Maltodextrin

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by ChrisMyhre, Jan 18, 2016.

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  1. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Our homebrew club recently held a quarterly competition for oatmeal stouts. Mine was good, scored well and took 3rd place, only negative comment was around body. I mashed high(158) and used 2 lbs of Oats, suppose I could have upped the Oats. I did cold steep the dark grains and wonder of the added water thinned things out a little. I have calibrated my thermometers at boiling and ice water, but they aren't exactly top of the line equipment so I'm wondering if at least the probe thermometer I was using may be off in the mash range. Next up for purchase will be something from Thermoworks to ensure I'm mashing where I think I am.

    I just added 6 ounces of matrodextrin to the keg and the mouth feel is approaching milkshake. For those who have used maltodextrin more than I have, what is your standard operating procedure? I've read everything from 2 to 8 oz for a 5 gallon batch this was already carbed so I was worried about creating an exploding keg, but post fermentation/ pre bottling or kegging you could probably add a little at a time to find the sweet spot.
     
  2. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Every milk stout that i have made to date, I have always used 1 lb. with 10-15 minutes left in the boil. The sugar is unfermentable so you don't have you worry about having bottle bombs or exploding kegs. I have never added it any later to a batch rather than at the end of the boil, but I don't see any reason at all as to why you wouldn't be able to. Just make sure you boil it down in a little bit of water to get the nasties out of it prior to adding it to whatever stage your beer is at. As for amounts go, I would start at 8 oz and go up from there. But I believe 1 lb. per 5 gallons is perfect. It just depends on how much you want. Cheers!
     
  3. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Thanks, I failed to mention because it seemed obvious but I boiled in non chlorinated water for 20 minutes and cooled prior to adding to the keg. I was worried I used way too much with 6 ounces in just shy of 5 gallons.
     
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  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Just to make sure you two are both talking about the same ingredient... @CADETS3 you use a pound of Maltodextrin in every milk stout? Or do you use Lactose? I ask because you mentioned "the sugar" and because lactose is typical in a milk stout.
     
  5. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'm betting he uses a pound of each. :grimacing:
     
  6. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Lol I was thinking lactose!!! Ha ha ha. I'm an idiot.
     
  7. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    :confused:
     
  8. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    I tried that once on a beer that thinned out in the barrel. After adding 1 lb maltodextrin to a 5 gallon batch, the beer was borderline solid :slight_smile:

    It did have this weird thing happen where it initially tasted sweet after adding the maltodextrin then about a week later the sweetness was gone. Probably some production impurities that then fermented out.
     
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  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Do you define 'solid' as pretty damn good, or did you mean that you needed to cut it with a knife and fork? :wink:
     
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  10. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    Knife and fork. Also tasted good, like a bourbon barrel aged milk shake, but was hard to drink more than 5-8 oz as it was chewy.
     
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  11. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I had a sample tonight and did notice that the sweetness and percieved body were back to more normal levels. In hindsight 6oz might have been just right.
     
  12. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    The most I've used was 8oz. in the boil. The beer had a very full body. Not quite enough to say beershake, tho.

    Never tried adding it post fermentation.

    I like to use it for brett beers. Brett will slowly obliterate 4-8oz. of maltodextrin in 6 months.
     
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  13. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    If it was only one negative comment amongst several judges, and assuming that you don't have an issue, then I wouldnt worry about it. That one person may just prefer (or have a predisposed notion) that stouts should all be thick and heavy.

    If it was a common comment amongst several judges, then I'd take a look at what could be contributing to the problem. You can use maltodextrin to help overcome a lack of body, but I'd personally try to achieve it without first.

    If I can ask, what were your OG / FG stats?
     
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  14. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    2 judges comments and OG 1.054, FG

    FG 1.017
     
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