Mango IPA help

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  1. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    I made a small batch of mango IPA a few years ago (Mr. Beer sized batch, but not Mr. Beer ingredients) and I am wanting to try it again with my new, 5 gallon setup. Here's the recipe I have in mind, I would love some input. Qbrew has me at about 6.3 % abv and about 58 ibus.

    Grains (mini mash and extract)

    British Two row- 1 lb
    crystal 20- 1 lb
    light dry extract 6 lbs

    Hops

    Centennial 1 oz for 60 mins
    Citra 1 oz for 30
    Citra 1 oz for 5
    citra 1 oz dry hop in secondary

    Miscellaneous

    I plan to puree about 1/3 a lb of mango meat in a sanitized blender, freezing it, then adding it in a hop bag for about a week in the secondary. I also plan to use some sort of generic ESB ale yeast.




    That's what I have so far. I'm looking for something very drinkable, not too fruity nor too bitter. I had a lot of luck with my first batch, but that was years ago and I've never used fruit in a 5 gallon batch. I've considered using different hops at different times, but I like the fruitiness of citra.
     
    #1 phideltashaggy, Aug 1, 2013
  2. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Honestly, I would be surprised if the mango could contribute more than the right blend of hops for a similar or better profile. I wouldn't add any citra until less than 15 minutes to go, and adding in Galaxy could really help get you what your looking for.

    I would use something cleaner than an ESB yeast, but that's the west coast talking through me.
     
    #2 drgarage, Aug 1, 2013
  3. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    As I said, I'm sort of guessing about fruit use in bigger batches, would .5-1 lbs of mango be overkill? And I'll look into galaxy. What sort of times and amounts of galaxy should I look into?
     
    #3 phideltashaggy, Aug 1, 2013
  4. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    As I said, I'm sort of guessing about fruit use in bigger batches, would .5-1 lbs of mango be overkill? And I'll look into galaxy. What sort of times and amounts of galaxy should I look into?
     
    #4 phideltashaggy, Aug 1, 2013
  5. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    Or would multiple pounds of mango be ok?
     
    #5 phideltashaggy, Aug 1, 2013
  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    First, I find ipa's with a bu:gu ratio of less than 1 to be lacking that hop kick that I expect from an ipa.
    Second, if you're using fruit, it seems you need at least a pound per gallon to get a presence in your beer. The more delicate the fruit flavors the more fruit you need.
    Third, any galaxy you put in should be in the later part of the boil for flavor and aroma. Hop stands seem to work best for me for gettiing copious amounts of flavors and aromas. Its just like other high alpha hops really. Treat it like citra. They are very similar in flavor profiles to me.
     
    #6 SFACRKnight, Aug 1, 2013
  7. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    Thanks for the advice. I actually used about 2.5 pounds on my two gallon batch, but in QBrew I put it down as a small amount of "generic grain" because I was unsure about how much sugar would actually extract. I plan to use about 5.5 pounds for this batch.

    I should consider this a lesson in taking copious notes while brewing.
     
    #7 phideltashaggy, Aug 1, 2013
  8. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    Thanks for the advice. I actually used about 2.5 pounds on my two gallon batch, but in QBrew I put it down as a small amount of "generic grain" because I was unsure about how much sugar would actually extract. I plan to use about 5.5 pounds for this batch.

    I should consider this a lesson in taking copious notes while brewing.
     
    #8 phideltashaggy, Aug 1, 2013
  9. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Mango is a very light fruit when used in beer, I would start with at least 1# per gallon of the actual flesh (less skin and pit), especially if you want it to show through the hopping.
     
    #9 jbakajust1, Aug 1, 2013
  10. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington


    It also helps to use very good fruit, just like certain apples are better than others for cider e.g., red delicious vs pippin, the typical supermarket mango are very bland when compared to better varieties such as Kent/Keitt. If you can try to find a asian/indian market they should have Kents right now. When they are good they are AWESOME, one of the best flavored mangoes around, and a texture like sorbet
     
    #10 ryane, Aug 2, 2013
  11. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

    Thanks for the great advice. My girlfriend has been trying to drag me to a new Asian market in town, now I have an excuse, haha.

    Besides the fruit, do I have a decent grain bill for a drinkable IPA? I haven't made many before.
     
    #11 phideltashaggy, Aug 2, 2013
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Since all the sugars in crystal are converted you could drop the two row and steep the crystal... but I do find that a mini mash adds some complexity that steeping doesn't. But I'd run with that grain bill for sure. My mini mash ips read like this:
    7.0lb LME
    2.0lb Marris Otter
    0.5lb biscuit
    .25 crystal 60
    .25 crystal 20

    or for apa
    6.0lb lme
    2.0lb crystal 20
    1.0lb munich
    1.0lb Vienna

    Both turn out well, my next will probably combine the two...
     
    #12 SFACRKnight, Aug 2, 2013
  13. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    did 8 lbs of mango in a 5 gallon batch. mango overpowers. i'd dial that down for an IPA to 3 lbs. you want a hint of mango but not a mango kick.

    i'd also personally suggest that you consider adding acid malt to the malt bill. i dig tartness with mango and the lower pH will also make the hops sparkle a wee bit more.
     
    #13 atomeyes, Aug 3, 2013
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