Maris Otter is not in ProMash?

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  1. idgb

    idgb Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2012

    I am working a new recipie and have already decided on and purchased the ingredients. But now that I am working on setting up my brew session in ProMash (version 1.8.a) I have discovered that Maris Otter is not a grain choice. Is there another grain that I could sub in the software to give me acurate estimates for ABV, SRM etc? Thanks and CHEERS!
     
  2. DubbelMan

    DubbelMan Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2009 New York

    I see it under pale malt-Maris Otter in my grain data base. I did update all my database entries from some Google searches some time ago.

    This has the most resent updates.

    http://www.promash.com/proboard/index.html

    Cheers!

    DM
     
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  3. DubbelMan

    DubbelMan Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2009 New York


    Sign up here to access it.

    https://www.box.com/

    Cheers!

    DM
     
  4. JayS2629

    JayS2629 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2010 Alabama

    Black IPA is not a style there either.
     
  5. DubbelMan

    DubbelMan Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2009 New York

    The database i linked was last updated in 2010. These were done by a community member. The actual app has not been updated in a long time. There are rumors that a version 2 will be available at some point. I hope so as its a great program. Also remember that you can add any style, grain, hop or yeast to the database. Just open the category you want and hit "new".

    Cheers!

    DM
     
  6. idgb

    idgb Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2012

    I have now gotten the new data into ProMash, but a lot is still missing, like Simcoe... Its really time for Pro Mash to do a really good update! The link above is the most recent and its almost 2 years old now.
     
  7. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    You can edit the malt and hop databases, entering in the items you want to add.
     
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  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Smart program.
     
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  9. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Coincidence that it is not a style recognized by the BJCP?
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    But it could be a BJCP style when the guidelines are re-written.
     
  11. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Yes, but not currently. It seems the programs have the styles to help guide the user towards the BJCP standards and "rules" for the style. If there is no style it is hard to really set the parameters for it. I am not familiar with Promash but I know in BeerSmith you can add a style if you really want to.
     
  12. marc77

    marc77 Pooh-Bah (1,923) May 25, 2001 California
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    As said before, you can add to any of the Promash databases very easily. If you don't want to add to the grain database, just use British Pale, as its numbers are virtually identical to MO. 38 PPG, 3 SRM ...etc.
     
  13. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Maris Otter IS an English pale malt.It's grown in England and lightly kilned.
    Quite frankly the differences between batches make anything other than a rough approximation pointless.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's all true, but 38 PPG as an estimate for M.O. is a good one to use.
     
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