Mash Tun Coolers - Why the Round Ones?

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  1. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    I'm looking into coolers for a mash tun. There are some 48 qt Colemans at Target for around $25. How would this be inferior to the typical 10 gallon round ones that seem to be so popular, but cost an extra $20?
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    It don't make no dif hoss. :rolling_eyes:
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Cylindrical coolers are better for (or at least arguably easier to adpapt for) fly sparging. For batch sparging, I'd call it a toss up, and base the decision mainly on size and cost.

    If you're going rectangular, i'd recommend Coleman Xtreme ove the cheaper models, for better insulation.
     
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  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I use an Igloo cube with homemade manifold insert and bacth sparge.
     
  5. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    I think the appeal of the round ones is mostly for the whirly sparge arms and round false bottoms. I recently switched to a fly sparge setup and already had a whirly sparge arm from another past setup but decided against the round cooler mostly because they only seem to be available as large as 10 gallons. Too small for some of my batches.
     
  6. spartan1979

    spartan1979 Pundit (970) Dec 29, 2005 Missouri

    The round coolers also have a deeper grain bed with the same amount of grain compared to rectangular ones.
     
  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    People on this forum used to plug a fly-sparge-like approach with rectangular coolers using perforated aluminum foil on top of the mash to help even out drainage. Periodically pour sparge water on top, as it lauters out the bottom. It looked pretty slipshod, but sounded like it worked pretty well.

    Anyone doing this anymore?
     
  8. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I prefer the round as it has a smaller footprint in my brewing area.

    Aside from that...most of what I've read seems to point to either very little difference or none, with regard to efficiency.
     
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  9. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    agree with most that biggest reason for cylindrical has do with fly sparging. Deep grain bed & false bottoms are superior for this purpose. The cheaper you go with the cooler, the cheaper the material & insulation. That said...that is the same cooler I have for my mid-sized mlt and it hold temps just fine.
     
  10. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    For batch sparging, I don't use a false bottom with my cylindrical cooler (5 gal). Works great.

    I WILL use a false bottom when I start fly sparging with my ten gallon keg system tho.
     
  11. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I'm a new guy here, but will be making my own mash tun within the next few months. I'll be following Palmer's advice regarding sizing to my more commonly brewed OG. In addition, I'll also be using Palmer's thoughts regarding making a manifold. Last, I'll be adding a sparge arm that's hard mounted to the cooler top. Long story short, I'm going with rectangular due to having more sizing options and easier geometry to make my extras; don't want to deal with bending copper piping to make rounds, rather keep things at 90 degree orientations. Like most have said, it's all in preference.
     
  12. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    I used to do this until about 5 batches ago. I think my last sheet of holy aluminum foil saw ten batches easily. It did work really well at protecting the grain bed. I've since started stirring between water additions and done additional vorlauf after each stirring.
     
  13. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Well this was worthwhile. It's my understanding that to fly sparge you need a pump or gravity system of some sort. My kettle is valve-less, and as is clear, price is a factor.

    I figured more money bought more insulation, but Telejunkie's feedback gives me hope, and I'd planned on throwing an old sleeping bag over it it for insurance.

    I'd probably start with an SS braid and maybe someday assemble a manifold.

    Thanks, All!
     
  14. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    This is what I was leaning towards. Is it just Water->Vorlauf->Stir->Repeat?
     
  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    It sounds like you are not familiar with batch sparge: http://hbd.org/cascade/dennybrew/
     
  16. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Insert a length of coiled #14 copper wire inside the braid to keep it from collapsing.
     
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  17. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    For some reason, I've been having a really hard time getting my head around the specifics of sparging. I understand the fundamental differences between batch sparging and fly sparging, but in actual application I appear to be bumbling. Maybe I'm overthinking it, since I knew batch sparging involved vorlaufing, but I swear, I'm a reasonably intelligent guy!
     
  18. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    You know what I use my mash tun cooler for when I'm not brewing? A cooler! Just keep that in mind that it can be a multi tasker. I'm happy with my rectangular one. I guess you could serve punch or water out of round one.
     
  19. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Mash --> Vorlauf --> Drain --> Add more water --> Vorlauf --> Drain (repeat last 3 if desired)
     
  20. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts


    Thank you. I thought that's what it was, but have never seen it in practice. Probably should have hit YouTube months ago...
     
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