Mastermind

Discussion in 'New England' started by Jmr85, Oct 6, 2014.

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  1. dawatts

    dawatts Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2006 Massachusetts

    There were nine cases of Mastermind at Bev Warehouse in Winooski. Seven left. :wink:
     
  2. jamesewelch

    jamesewelch Initiate (0) May 11, 2012 Vermont

    There was a stack of about 6-9 cases (didn't count, but about 4ft high) at the brewery as of 3pm. Guy behind the counter said they are doing 3 more runs of Mastermind, then switching to Second Fiddle and Hodad. Gave qualifier that "if we get the hops" for Second Fiddle.
     
  3. Sean802

    Sean802 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Vermont

    I know it gets to Bennington a towns between there and Rutland. Not sure bout Bratt and the SE part of vt tho
     
  4. vtcraft

    vtcraft Initiate (171) Apr 1, 2013 Vermont
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    City market had a bunch yesterday around 5.
    I also saw in in the NEK/Lyndonville around Labor day
     
  5. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    They had at least 20 cases at the brewery around 1pm today.
     
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  6. Auror

    Auror Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts

    Assuming this is a busy weekend up there. Any clues about best places to look tomorrow for Mastermind if brewery sells out? I haven't been able to find a listing of retail locations.
     
  7. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    I tried a couple shops this morning and they were sold out. I was told the best place would be the brewery. They might have more cases in the back? Also, not many people were buying cans when I was there. Mostly just tasting and getting growlers. I would call tomorrow and check.
     
  8. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Poo-Bah (4,807) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    Was at the brewery at 6 today And they had quite a bit.
     
  9. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    I stopped by the brewery last Friday while my wife and daughter made a teddy bear for a new baby of some friends of ours. Nice people, friendly atmosphere. Got 3 4 packs, all canned 10/9. I wonder if these need a little time. I drank two, but they are very, very vegetal...like green vegetables. I'm going to sit on them a little. A friend who knows beer better than me, suggested that unlike say Heady, which is weeks old at canning, Mastermind is canned very quickly.
     
  10. MNPikey

    MNPikey Devotee (442) Feb 27, 2011 Minnesota
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    Picked up a case at the brewery today around noon.
     
  11. bahnfire

    bahnfire Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Vermont

    While I'm hoping it isn't the case, but this sounds like batch variation (read: an off batch) more than anything. I've had cans fresh off the line from all the August and September batches and they've all been awesome right from the start.
     
  12. lic217

    lic217 Champion (874) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    My wife brought some back today, from a trip she took up to VT. Going to try and wait to try them until the weekend. I am worried about the above vegetable comment. That does not sound very good. Curiosity is going to kill me...
     
  13. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    It's a good and interesting beer in any event. But the guy who suggested I give them a little time is studying for cicerone so I am going to take his advice. I've got 14 more cans anyway.
     
  14. Beericjb

    Beericjb Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2012 Connecticut

    My friend enjoyed these more after a week or two of them sitting in the fridge.
     
  15. MooltiPass

    MooltiPass Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 Connecticut

    I believe I'm the friend @Beericjb mentioned, and I actually thought they were tasting better at a full month out from canning, not just a week or two. I get a really strong licorice flavor from Mastermind when it's fresh. After a month that flavor is still present but it's much more integrated into the beer and less overwhelming to my palate.
     
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  16. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    That's consistent with the recommendation from my friend, who thinks they are canning it too soon after brewing. So that's what I plan to do. I've got a load of other beers to drink anyway.
     
  17. Auror

    Auror Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts

    Fresh is king, but there can be such a thing as too fresh sometimes. Everyone's palates are different and sometimes with a little experimentation you can find what you like best in all or certain IPAs. No idea how long Fiddlehead conditions the beer before releasing it, and it's likely that a lot of people would love it the fresher the better. But if you're getting really green and/or vegetal flavors that others aren't mentioning, it's likely either just how certain hops/combinations hit you or your freshness preference for IPAs. You can easily test that out: If it tastes the same to you after a week or two of sitting in your fridge, it's probably the hop profile.

    John Kimmich related interview (relevant part about 4 minutes in)
     
  18. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Agreed. Was thinking of that interview. My wife did get the same flavors. Tasted the day after canning. My friend suggested that Fiddlehead may not be conditioning the beer long enough. I've had HT essentially off the truck and Be Hoppy the day after canning with no issues. I did find that Night Shift Morph and Whirlpool were better with a little time.

    I'll report back in a couple weeks.
     
  19. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,294) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    10/2 batch of Mastermind is drinking bomb right now. So delicious.
     
  20. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Just saw your picture in WBAYDN and it doesn't even look like the same beer. It's almost clear. Here is my picture from Friday.

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  21. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,294) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Interesting. Yeah, mine had only a little haze, almost filtered looking, and definitely paler. Perhaps some batch variation, although time in the can could have some effect.
     
  22. Moopband

    Moopband Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2010 New York

    Anyone know if there's still some left at the brewery? Was thinking of stopping by today.
     
  23. Mojua

    Mojua Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Massachusetts

    Definitely none at the Brewery. Was there yesterday. Try Mazza's General Store in Colchester. 30 mins from Fiddlehead. Super nice guys. Got a case and they had a few left (yesterday at 2pm).
     
  24. pjvie

    pjvie Initiate (0) May 30, 2014 Oregon

    According to Fiddlehead's FB page, the next Mastermind releases are Oct 23 and 30th. They say they usually do 2 weeks on, 1 week break, so none the Thursday following the 30th.
     
  25. vtcraft

    vtcraft Initiate (171) Apr 1, 2013 Vermont
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    Mazza's was also charging something like $14.99. Explains why they may still have some
     
  26. Mojua

    Mojua Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Massachusetts

    Nope. $10.99. Stickers are still on my 4-packs. Also found some at Stowe Beverage this morning, but it was $11.99.
     
  27. SenatorSpaceman

    SenatorSpaceman Initiate (0) May 24, 2014 Connecticut

    I was really disappointed by this beer. Maybe it's just my taste, but I think it's a bit crazy that some people are suggesting that Mastermind > Heady. Too much of a lemon flavor for me. Maybe I'm alone on this one but we all taste hops differently.
     
  28. baybum

    baybum Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I saw they are canning this Thursday. Does anyone have a feel for how longs cases tend to hang around for sale? Also any places sell cases and if so any idea when they get deliveries? I'm headed to VT on Friday and won't be in the area until after HF, so it could be later in the day.
     
  29. jamesewelch

    jamesewelch Initiate (0) May 11, 2012 Vermont

    You should be able to find some at the brewery. The deliveries to local stores depends on distributor. It usually gets delivered on the Tuesday after the canning/release Thursday, however, some weeks it arrives as early as Thursday or Friday to the stores. It usually sticks around in stores for a few days or week, depending on the store. It sticks around at the brewery for a few days, unless it's a holiday weekend with lots of tourists.
     
  30. baybum

    baybum Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Thanks!
     
  31. celfan

    celfan Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont

    curious what you all think about today's batch.

    maybe i shouldn't have eaten a supermarket donut before trying it.
     
  32. Guzzle_McBrew

    Guzzle_McBrew Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2014 Connecticut

    It makes it all over the damn place- one of the young ladies at hill told me she got a case up in a tiny little town not too far from Greensboro.
     
  33. pjvie

    pjvie Initiate (0) May 30, 2014 Oregon

    Found some from the batch 2 weeks ago in north Burlington. Rachel at Fiddlehead tracked it down for a friend and myself because we were in town Wednesday and couldn't stay for the Thursday release! Great beer and even greater customer service. Props Fiddlehead!
     
  34. FFreak

    FFreak Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    Give the beer a week or so in the can...I think it comes off the line a little green and needs some time to condition.
     
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  35. celfan

    celfan Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont

    I'm drinking one now.


    It's definitely better sans donut.
     
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  36. Hirshi

    Hirshi Initiate (0) May 1, 2012 New York

    100% agreed.
     
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  37. MattWeichner

    MattWeichner Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2011 Connecticut

    is this still available at the brewery? And if not any sightings of it in Burlington or Stowe area?
     
  38. celfan

    celfan Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont

    First thing I thought while pouring on Thursday was "man, this is so light".
     
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  39. lic217

    lic217 Champion (874) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    My cans are two weeks old now. The beer has change dramatically from the first time I tried it. Matermind reminds me of my homebrew IPAs. They seem to be a different beer every time I try them. It makes the beer exciting. I really like the beer and I look forward to the constantly changing flavor. I cannot decide if I like it now or two weeks ago. Its a great deal at $10 a four pack.
     
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  40. celfan

    celfan Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont

    Tilt arcade ale house in S Burlington just tapped a keg of Mastermind for a special charity event
     
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