"Micropub" System..thoughts?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DrinkSlurm, Nov 14, 2013.

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If you found a place making beer using this method, what would you do? Taste aside.

  1. I dont care how its made. I will be back.

    17.9%
  2. Until they make beer the traditional way, I will never come back.

    53.8%
  3. Id stop in once and a while. Dont really care either way.

    28.2%
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  1. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    How do you know for sure, until the snow melts? :wink:
     
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  3. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    LOL

    (I'm not sure if "LOL" is allowed, although it literally made me laugh out loud, so I'll go with: because we don't use underwater tunnels for our submarine bases, unlike China, so I know. :slight_smile: ).
     
  4. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    If it tastes good, I don't care, I'll buy it unless they are doing something completely unethical and evil, then I will protest them.
     
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  5. JJSmash

    JJSmash Devotee (386) Nov 23, 2011 Connecticut

    I haven' t been there yet, but at least I know what to expect when and if I go. Thanks for the ifo.
     
  6. More_Cowbell

    More_Cowbell Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2013 Washington

    Sounds like a system to make beer which would appeal to mass produced, non-craft drinkers. As others have said I'm sure it has its fans, but I wouldn't touch it for $7 a pint, maybe $4 a pint.
     
  7. audioserf

    audioserf Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Connecticut

    I've been to the place in South Norwalk the OP references and the beer is incredibly forgettable. It just tastes like a guy charging money for mediocre homebrew. I never plan to go back. Food was decent, I'll give them that.
     
  8. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    It sounds like a great business model.
    But I wouldn't want to drink there.
     
  9. LuckyLyle

    LuckyLyle Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Texas

    Truly in a blind taste test, w/o knowing what was extract or all-grain. (they all start from all-grain, by the way) ....I wonder how many if any could tell the difference. I think it's simply because they "know"...so it bothers them. Extract simply takes out a step if one doesn't have room to store grains, etc. They are just picking up where the process left off. As stated earlier......I've had quite a few all-grain brews that totally sucked! It's simple...if it's good, it's good...if not, it's not. People make it out to be more complicated than it is.....
     
  10. NHhomebrewguy

    NHhomebrewguy Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2012 New Hampshire

    shit, I casted my vote before I read what micropub pub meant. micropubs suck. fuck that, I will never go to one of these shit holes. it actually repulses me!!!!
     
  11. NHhomebrewguy

    NHhomebrewguy Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2012 New Hampshire

    Think about it this way, extract beer is all-grain wort that has been boil all the way down to a very concentrated level. After that it is boiled for ANOTHER hour. You can tell extract from all grain if you know how a beer should really taste. No one should brew this way and sell it for profit and feel proud about it. Actually, no one should buy this beer and feel good about it. Yes, it's beer. But it's beer that could be and should be better if people actually cared. The process has a lot to do with it and the people that brew it and drink it should both take pride in it!!
     
  12. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Meh. Some people like microwaved food that comes in boxes, and think it's great. Bully for them.
     
  13. BrainTree

    BrainTree Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2013 Vermont

    If it brings BMC drinkers into the craft fold then I'm all for it. Otherwise meh...
     
  14. FedBrew

    FedBrew Initiate (0) Oct 10, 2013 Maryland

    Here's the thing, so many people are treating beer making like it is a religion not an art. Ask 100 different artists to creatively interpret a subject and both the tools they select and their end result will differ. Do any of the "slammers" have a clue what the entrance fee is to open a microbrewery or any other business for that matter? It is very easy to sit on the other side of the bar and whine and then go home and slam a business owner from a safe little space in your den. I respect any entrepreneur who knows what his/her budget and personal limitations are and does what works best for them and for their family. If you don't like the way their beer tastes, don't drink it. But for God's sake don't make it your personal agenda to shut down an establishment just because they don't know the secret handshake or couldn't afford to spend $150-$350k on a "traditional" system. The pen, or in this case, the keyboard, IS mightier than the sword - don't forget it.
     
  15. DrinkSlurm

    DrinkSlurm Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2007 New York

    My OP was simply that beer should not be labeled as "craft" if its not crafted. Just add water is not crafting anything. If you went to a café and had a hot chocolate that was labeled as "artisanal" or something like that, then found out they just added boiling water to a buy in bulk chocolate powder...im (hoping) you would be pissed.

    I cant really speak for every BA, but when I want a craft [local] brew, I expect it to be craft...or at least properly informed on what it is. The place in question is very sneaky in the fact that they have a few tanks but absolutely no info on the process. Its shady. It doesnt matter what the budget is, or situation, or whatever is going on with the owner...call a spade a spade instead of trying to cash in on a trend. I take it personally that they think we are that dumb, and have no problem taking MY hard earned money (what about my family). This is how his process works:

    1. Call Malt delivery company and place order for Malt extract. 2. Malt is delivered and pumped into boil kettle. 3. Add water, boil, and add hops. 4. Chill, add yeast, serve, and charge $7/pint (I am no micropub expert, but I believe its all done in the same tank - not even kegged).

    I don't wish they close their door, but I do wish they would change their sign...its not a microbrewery. There is no thought process, recipe design, temperature control, or any such craft involved. Maybe people don't understand that mashing grains at different temperatures produce wildly different flavors..a difference in a few degrees, or a few minutes in either direction would make a different beer. The size of the crush of the grain, the brand of grain, the mash thickness, how long its boiled, how long its cooled...When you buy extract, you buy someone else's idea of how the sugar is made and you have no part in it. You are basically buying a microwave dinner and adding some salt or pepper.

    Boiling isn't Brewing.
     
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  16. JD_Bogerdy

    JD_Bogerdy Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Florida

    If i had read your post before voting i would have selected Not Going there. I know things like that exist for home use, hell the first time i "Brewed" beer was with one, but I've never heard of a "Brewery" doing this. They need to be exposed. If people still want to drink their beer after knowing, that's their choice. But i won't eat at a restaurant that uses powdered eggs and a bunch of canned goods, and i wouldn't drink at an establishment like this.

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