If there are any other beginners out there, Midwest Homebrewing Supplies has their starter kit on Groupon for half price again. Now I almost wish I'd waited a couple weeks to get started. http://www.groupon.com/deals/midwes...3ecb2bbb3b7e19fbeb65e034e6d95ed8a71e6dc865099
did this a while back with the dry stout recipe. good deal overall (esp with the $25 coupon), but the stout isn't all that tasty...i'd go for the amber if i were to do over
