Missing Trader?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by DrLaFollette, May 22, 2013.

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  1. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah

    Anybody know where AbeFroman might be? He won a LIF that I ran back in January and then we decided to trade some bottles. He was getting back to me every two or three days after I messaged him, but I haven't heard from him since he received my box six weeks ago and I'm still waiting for a box in return.
     
  2. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Sounds like he hit and quit it. Boom.
     
  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    At least you have his address...
     
  4. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Might want to move this one to the trading forum. If it makes you feel better I can send you some StL goodies....
     
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  5. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

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  6. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah

    Thanks Kuemmelbrau, hope you are well!
     
  7. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah

    I was hoping someone would just tell me he has been away for business but returning soon :wink: I guess I'll give it a couple more weeks and if I still haven't heard from him I'll put him on the bad trader list, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt (Thanks for the link cbeer88). Still lots of wonderful BA's out there to trade with.
     
  8. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    what does he owe ya?
     
  9. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah

    Just some Alpine Nelson and a Chocolate Rain (he's a Bruery Reserve member) in exchange for some beer I picked up for him when I was on vacation in Wisconsin/Minnesota. I sent a New Glarus Raspberry Tart, a couple Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Barleywine, and either Surly Abrasive or Furious.
     
  10. brees6221

    brees6221 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2009 Western Sahara

    He has been away for business but returning soon.









    *not really, but years of experience have taught me to just tell women what they want to hear.
     
  11. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah


    Thanks brees, you are a smart man :slight_smile:
     
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  12. Uncleserg

    Uncleserg Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2009 California

    Just stumbled onto this thread based on a search of CR. If it counts for anything this guy blows. Sorry to hear about your ordeal. I'd be interested if he coughs up his beer when he comes back from "business." This is the part were trading comes into question. Good luck Dr. and keep us posted.

    As for being away he should man up and say I'm away on business so please hang onto your beer until I get back. How hard can that be? Seriously! Communication is not that hard unless you want to rip people off.
     
  13. FishPondManager

    FishPondManager Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 Colorado

    Guys, he's the Sausage King of Chicago. He can't be bothered with a trivial act such as shipping beer at this time. I mean, it's grilling season! His secretary will get to you in due time.
     
  14. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah

    Thanks for the information, that's exactly what I said in my last message to him. I know that things come up but part of being a good trader is communicating those things when you are supposed to send someone something. I'm counting this one as a loss.
     
  15. Bad_Trader

    Bad_Trader Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Namibia

    Is it more fun to screw women out of beer? I need to look into all of my options here.
     
  16. DrLaFollette

    DrLaFollette Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Utah

    :slight_frown:
     
  17. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Any chance you have heard from the dude? Do you have his ph# as required by FedEx? I'd give the jerk a call
     
  18. lonewolfcry

    lonewolfcry Pooh-Bah (1,994) Dec 7, 2007 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'm truly sorry you didn't get your beer.
    And I am in no way trying to defend what that shit bag did - I hope he gets what's coming to him.

    You were expecting some to give you a Chocolate Rain for those beers?.
    CWBBBW was $12 a 4 pk - 2 bottles would cover the Alpine.

    Raspberry Tart is a $8-9 bottle - which brings you up to $15 total so far.
    And depending on how many Abrasive or Furious you're talking about - Furious $10 4 pk / Abrasive $16 4 pk.

    My point is - this "to good to be true" trade should've raised a red flag from the get-go.
    I believe CR was a $40 bottle.
    It's pretty hard to land $4$, unless the beer you're trading is comparably limited.

    Like I said earlier - sorry about the burn.
    And I'm not saying either that it couldn't have happened to me - I'm pretty trusting.
    But maybe a lesson learned, as well.

    Cheers
     
  19. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    Wow, just.... wow...

    Yes, she expected to get the beers that were agreed upon in the trade that was agreed upon. People trade up and down in rarity and $4$ every day, for various reasons and sometimes for no reason at all.
     
  20. tinypyramids

    tinypyramids Pundit (897) Jul 19, 2012 Illinois

    red flag or not, someone agreed to a trade and didn't follow through. i've seen plenty of instances where "red flag" trades came through. someone traded me a ba kopi speedway for my 2011 dark lord (knowing exactly what he was giving up). you bet he'll get hooked up on our next trade.

    regardless though, if i've never traded with someone and they're not super well known on the forums (think mordormongo, grumpyoldtroll, etc.), i've started checking references, especially if they've traded with someone i know.

    dunno if there's a point to this reply, but there you go
     
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