MN house bill 1078

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  1. brewnic

    brewnic Aspirant (255) Oct 7, 2010 Minnesota
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    Highlights from it are increase the limit from 20,000 to 250,000 BBLs and "growlers" is expanded to the language for containing between 500 milliliters and two liters. Also loosen the limit on Brewpubs in what they can sell for off sale.

    http://wdoc.house.leg.state.mn.us/leg/LS90/HF1078.0.pdf
     
  2. SipIt

    SipIt Initiate (176) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota

    So am I reading this correctly? Surly, Fulton and the likes are able to sell growlers again?

    The other thing I always found weird was the label with the address and the name of the malt liquor on it. How does that work when you bring a growler from a different brewery in?
     
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  3. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,007) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    What is Schell's and Summit's volume? I think they are under 250,000 also, right?
     
  4. JakeJohnson

    JakeJohnson Initiate (155) Jan 30, 2015 Minnesota
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    Summit has a capacity of 240,000 BBL and Schell's has a capacity of 250,000 BBL. Neither is close to hitting full capacity.
     
  5. JMN44

    JMN44 Initiate (164) Sep 19, 2013 Minnesota

    Yes, both were around 135,000 barrels during 2014 and I'm sure they haven't grown past 250,000.

    Edit: Looks like 2015 production was Schell's around 138,000 barrels and Summit 133,000 barrels.
     
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  6. brewnic

    brewnic Aspirant (255) Oct 7, 2010 Minnesota
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    The "label" can be done with a sticker that is applied to the cap. In the case of SS or flip top growlers you can still add a sticker to it to show all the information. This is already part of the law today.
     
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  7. MNTraveler

    MNTraveler Initiate (20) Jul 27, 2016 Minnesota

    So, under the new changes, Surly could sell bottles of Darkness in the gift shop?
     
  8. SudsSavant

    SudsSavant Aspirant (238) Jan 9, 2007 Minnesota
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    If this passes in this form, we may have just seen the last Darkness Day at the old location. Also, anyone eyeing a Surly growler on eBay may want to hold back for a bit before shelling out +$100 on one.
     
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  9. SipIt

    SipIt Initiate (176) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota

    Do you, or anyone on here, know if it's difficult to get a sticker with the general surgeon warning on it. I searched a little with no luck, but have a couple of the double walled steel growlers from WI that don't have the warning.
     
  10. iRun2Beer

    iRun2Beer Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2015 Minnesota

    Sort of off topic but is there any logistical reason, other than Darkness Day, for continuing to maintain the Brooklyn Center location? Do they still brew pilot batches or smaller batches there?
     
  11. SudsSavant

    SudsSavant Aspirant (238) Jan 9, 2007 Minnesota
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    https://www.amazon.com/Alcohol-Beer-Wine-Government-Growlers/dp/B01FUWI2NE

    Alternatively, copy & paste this:
    ***********************************************
    GOVERNMENT WARNING:
    (1) According to the Surgeon General, women should not drink alcoholic beverages during pregnancy because of the risk of birth defects.

    (2) Consumption of alcoholic beverages impairs your ability to drive a car or operate machinery, and may cause health problems.
    ***********************************************​
    ...and then order these:
    https://www.amazon.com/30622-Pres-ply-address-labels/dp/B000ZLYO5G/

    :sunglasses:
     
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  12. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,007) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    Well, for one thing, this bill has not even made it out of committee yet, let alone passed.

    But, this is what this article said:
    "Jerrod, a keyboardist with a free-flowing personality, has been at the helm of the Brooklyn Center brewery for two and a half years, crafting Surly’s one-off recipes and barrel-aged beers."​
     
  13. SudsSavant

    SudsSavant Aspirant (238) Jan 9, 2007 Minnesota
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    Pretty sure if it's not a flagship, year-round beer (i.e. Furious, Bender, etc.) it's still being brewed there. The plan from the get-go has always been to keep both locations up and running.
     
  14. SipIt

    SipIt Initiate (176) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota

    Heck, buy a pack of 3 and I'm good to go!! Definitely doing that.
     
  15. KarlHungus

    KarlHungus Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2005 Minnesota

    Is there really a brewpub in Minnesota that is selling anywhere near the 500 barrels per year in growlers? That equates to 15,500 growlers a year (42 plus per day, seven days a week). I have a had time believing that even Town Hall comes close to that.
     
  16. iRun2Beer

    iRun2Beer Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2015 Minnesota

    If the term "growler" includes crowlers and other sized containers, I imagine Dangerous Man could be getting close. I don't think it would be difficult for them to sell the equivalent of about 300 growlers-worth to-go containers in a week. Just a guess though, I honestly have no idea.
     
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  17. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,007) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    I look at it as removing a silly restriction that (presumably) requires the brewpub to report their numbers to the state.
     
  18. KarlHungus

    KarlHungus Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2005 Minnesota

    What seems wierd to me is that they're raising the limit to 3500 barrels. However, by law brewpubs can't make over 3500 barrels per year. So why not just get ride of the restriction altogether?
     
  19. KiddVideo

    KiddVideo Initiate (0) Jun 19, 2015 Minnesota

    Although I would love to see this happening I don't see MLBA or the MMBA on board with this legislation.
     
  20. SudsSavant

    SudsSavant Aspirant (238) Jan 9, 2007 Minnesota
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    I would love to hear the arguments against it though. They've been spouting alternative facts long before it was ever a thing.
     
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  21. KiddVideo

    KiddVideo Initiate (0) Jun 19, 2015 Minnesota

    I have heard both special interest groups want to maintain the three tier system.
     
  22. mnbearsfan

    mnbearsfan Initiate (0) Dec 25, 2009 Minnesota

    With the larger breweries, would they want to monkey with growers? Selling bottles and 6 packs to go would be nice though. Possibly work something out with the distributor

    Also, why aren't the breweries part of the MLBA? Or form their lobbying group and partner with the League of MN cities.
     
  23. Dizmal

    Dizmal Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2009 Minnesota

    ^ that and why would I as a consumer want a growler over the 4/6 pack either?
     
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